UNOFFICIAL BIOSTAR TPower I45 M/B

[hokiealumnus]

+1 mrcape!

Anyway, I need to rescind what I said earlier about the beta BIOS. I must have gotten some lucky work units when folding with my previous OC (for over a week!?). Since I griped, I flashed back to the 710 BIOS and it's still not stable. Raised Vcore one notch and it's fine. Seems I spoke too soon. After this folds for a few days, I'll flash back to the new BIOS whenever I get a minute and see if it's stable.

[Ace-a-Rue]

And then 590....Still Ace the voltage im putting into my hardware...using Air on the NB and water on the CPu is insane

hmmm, i only had to set about 1.35 to 1.36 Vcore to my E8500 to hold 4255 Mhz and that made it prime 95 stable for about 2 hour run...i was on air.

it just goes to show you how a combination of hardware on one board does very well and someone else, like yourself, has to use higher voltages..and..you are not getting the results that you thought you should have.

EDIT:...sorry mate, i made an error in Mhz achieved doing a 2 hour run with P95...it was 4255 Mhz...here is the slide...the Vcore shown there has the Vdroop already built in...so...set voltage in the bios was about 1.35 to 1.36V.

[DoObs]

The thing is Ace, i never had to push this much ...i was on DICE when i did 600FSB on my DFI...and there i only pushed 1.552v to my cpu...but then my NB on my DFI, i had pushed 1.84v which was on stock heatpipe.

[BigKriss]

Hey Doobsie ! Will chat when I get the RMA done.Pete said you had one of these..Kriss.

[DoObs]

Cool beans Kriss, you have me on msn....pm me when u got ur new board...hopefully its not too long to wait, considering Andy is getting them from a supplier in Jozi

[dro]

i would luv tis board even more if the step size in V increment were smaller

if i were to clock on air and assuming i have a decent proc
what would be the ideal V settings u guys would recommend?

tqs

[BigKriss]

Cool beans Kriss, you have me on msn....pm me when u got ur new board...hopefully its not too long to wait, considering Andy is getting them from a supplier in Jozi

Aargh ! You kidding me ! I am in Jozie ! Will shout once I have it.

[bigwill68]

Wrote:
[BIOS SETUP] O.N.E
Over-Clocking Navigator [Manual OverClock]

Intel® SpeedStep™ : disabled
Ratio CMOS Setting : x9
CPU Frequency Setting : 450
Over Clock Retry Count : 3
FSB(Bsel) To NorthBridge Latch : 1333
DRAM Frequency : 900 <------mines 910
DDR2 Enhance Mode : disabled

DRAM Timing Configuration
DDR2 RCOMP Configuration : 2 <------mines 3
Static tREAD Value : 10t
Configure DRAM Timing by SPD : 5-5-5-15

Clock Gen Configuration
PCIE Frequency Setting : 100
CPU Clock Skew Control : auto <------- mines 200
(G)MCH Clock Skew Control :auto
CPU Clock Driving Control :auto

Voltage Configuration
CPU Voltage : +0.025vv (wrong)
DDR Voltage :+0.05v (wrong)
Chipset Voltage : + 0.05v (wrong)
FSB Voltage : +0.05v ( wrong) can be adjusted
CPU Core1 GTL Ref Voltage : .63
CPU Core2 GTL Ref Voltage : .67 (wrong)
MCH GTL Ref Voltage : auto
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5

my setting now are:

Voltage Configuration
CPU Voltage : +0.125vv
DDR Voltage :+0.250v
Chipset Voltage : + 0.175v
FSB Voltage : auto
CPU Core1 GTL Ref Voltage : .63*vtt
CPU Core2 GTL Ref Voltage : .63*vtt
MCH GTL Ref Voltage : auto
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5

cpu voltage :1.336v
nb/sb voltage :1.256v
ddr voltage :2.128v
FSB Voltage :1.272

my setting at 4.0ghz & 4.1ghz

I dont know what type memory you got

my pic link below if wanna take a look and it's stable
http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/9...dmemorywx3.jpg

[Rich3077]

I joined this forum because I found this thread on Google and read all 50+ pages TWICE. (Nice Thread)

Anyway I currently have this motherboard and a Q9550 E0 for a system I am putting together for my kid for Christmas. I have the system put together using the stock cooler and such while I wait for the rest of my goodies to arrive. So far 3.6 Ghz is not a problem using stock voltage... but becomes unstable due to heat.

I will be following this thread and updating as soon as time permits.

This is my first quad build and I am in love... will be upgrading my personal rig with a Q9650 (and probably a Gigibyte boad) in January or so but thats a topic for a different thread.

I am also doing the heatpipe bolt mod listed in this thread.

Many thanks to everyone who has posted so far.

Peace
Rich

[hokiealumnus]

Dro, in case you still need them, E8400 (E0 stepping) 24/7 Folding@Home stable overclocks:

4.0GHz
445 x 9
Vcore - +.075
Vdimm - +.150
Vchipset - +.025
Vfsb - Auto
Core1GTLREF - .63
Core2GTLREF - .67
MCHGTLREF - Auto
CPU PLL - 1.5v
Clock Skew - Auto

4.25GHz
500x8.5
Vcore - +.150
Vdimm - +.150
Vchipset - +.225 (this could potentially be lowered; haven't had time to try)
Vfsb - Auto (same as above)
Core1GTLREF - .63
Core2GTLREF - .67
MCHGTLREF - Auto
CPU PLL - 1.5v
Clock Skew - 200ps

C1E / EIST are disabled for both of them.

[bigwill68]

Dro, in case you still need them, E8400 (E0 stepping) 24/7 Folding@Home stable overclocks:

4.0GHz
445 x 9
Vcore - +.075
Vdimm - +.150
Vchipset - +.025
Vfsb - Auto
Core1GTLREF - .63
Core2GTLREF - .67
MCHGTLREF - Auto
CPU PLL - 1.5v
Clock Skew - Auto

4.25GHz
500x8.5
Vcore - +.150
Vdimm - +.150
Vchipset - +.225 (this could potentially be lowered; haven't had time to try)
Vfsb - Auto (same as above)
Core1GTLREF - .63
Core2GTLREF - .67
MCHGTLREF - Auto
CPU PLL - 1.5v
Clock Skew - 200ps

C1E / EIST are disabled for both of them.

@Hokiealumnus

what would be a good setting to get 4.3ghz at 478x9=4.302
without cranking the cpu voltage up pass +0.125? can you
work with the Fsb Voltage and chipset voltage and whats
the maxs volts on them both to adjust them to?

4.302GHz
478 x 9
Vcore - ?
Vdimm - ?
Vchipset - ?
Vfsb - ?
Core1GTLREF - ?
Core2GTLREF - ?
MCHGTLREF - ?
CPU PLL - 1.5v
Clock Skew - ?

right now i'm at 4.2ghz stable tested with intelburntest after (maxs stress 1) 5 passes but failed orthos after 38mins fft's cpu stress..I don't know why that happen that you pass 1 but not the other but. I left the setting where they are another thing..I tryed loosen up the memory & adjusting volts
around without messing with the cpu volts..I wanna keep that there trying
to get low cpu volts and high clocking ability if possible if not..i'll stay here



here's my setting now

468 x 9
Vcore - +0.125
Vdimm - +0.250
Vchipset - +0.200
Vfsb - +0.250
Core1GTLREF - 63*
Core2GTLREF - 63*
MCHGTLREF - 0.59
CPU PLL - 1.5v
Clock Skew - 200

memory is on config 1

any suggestions?

[hokiealumnus]

Well, I'm at +.225Vchipset and auto on vFSB at 500 x 8.5. Shouldn't need any more than that. Raising them past that won't help you get to 4.3GHz on the CPU. Since you're already running your memory below its rated speed, loosening the timings won't help. Vdimm is about .1v over what you need even for their rated speed, much less below that.

Also, sorry to say if it fails either IBT or Orthos, it's not stable. Guarantee if you tried to fold with that OC, it'll crash (please don't try).

[PolRoger]

@Hokiealumnus

what would be a good setting to get 4.3ghz at 478x9=4.302
without cranking the cpu voltage up pass +0.125? can you
work with the Fsb Voltage and chipset voltage and whats
the maxs volts on them both to adjust them to?

4.302GHz
478 x 9
Vcore - ?
Vdimm - ?
Vchipset - ?
Vfsb - ?
Core1GTLREF - ?
Core2GTLREF - ?
MCHGTLREF - ?
CPU PLL - 1.5v
Clock Skew - ?

right now i'm at 4.2ghz stable tested with intelburntest after (maxs stress 1) 5 passes but failed orthos after 38mins fft's cpu stress..I don't know why that happen that you pass 1 but not the other but. I left the setting where they are another thing..I tryed loosen up the memory & adjusting volts
around without messing with the cpu volts..I wanna keep that there trying
to get low cpu volts and high clocking ability if possible if not..i'll stay here



here's my setting now

468 x 9
Vcore - +0.125
Vdimm - +0.250
Vchipset - +0.200
Vfsb - +0.250
Core1GTLREF - 63*
Core2GTLREF - 63*
MCHGTLREF - 0.59
CPU PLL - 1.5v
Clock Skew - 200

memory is on config 1

any suggestions?

You may need to go to +0.150v on vcore... I'm now testing a E8600 at 475x9 beacause it appears the chip needed the bump from +0.125v to be long term stable. I was also looking at 478x9 with this chip (+0.150 vcore) but my first attempt failed and I've now backed off to 475.

[bigwill68]

hokiealumnus Wrote:
sorry to say if it fails either IBT or Orthos, it's not stable. Guarantee if you tried to fold with that OC, it'll crash (please don't try).

ic see what your saying well that's weird to pass 1 test and not the other my computer has'nt crash and running fiine no lock ups
i've been transcoding,surfing web ripping dvds etc, not locked yet but..i will change the setting thanks bro

PolRoger Wrote:
You may need to go to +0.150v on vcore...

you say i need to bump volts on the cpu to +0.150 from +0.125 that will hold me stable at 4.3ghz and maybe more? now that will put me 1.368v now will that be safe to hold on the cpu 24/7 sense the cpu it rated at 1.362v will that hurt it at all? and can i leave the volts there after setting it..I'm worryed
that..I will burn it up..

[PolRoger]

ic see what your saying well that's weird to pass 1 test and not the other my computer has'nt crash and running fiine no lock ups
i've been transcoding,surfing web ripping dvds etc, not locked yet but..i will change the setting thanks bro




you say i need to bump volts on the cpu to +0.150 from +0.125 that will hold me stable at 4.3ghz and maybe more? now that will put me 1.368v now will that be safe to hold on the cpu 24/7 sense the cpu it rated at 1.362v will that hurt it at all? and can i leave the volts there after setting it..I'm worryed
that..I will burn it up..

It looks like with this E8600 that I'm testing if I want to run 4.3... I may have too. An individuals comfort level with voltages will vary from person to person. I would prefer to run +0.125v for 24/7 but I think I'm willing to run +0.150v as well. I feel it is close enough to the Intel 1.3625v recommended max. I don't think my chip will degrade. There are people who run higher voltage 24/7 and claim to have no issuses. Who knows I'm may change my mind later and decide to run a slightly lower O.C. with less volts.

[bigwill68]

Wrote:

It looks like with this E8600 that I'm testing if I want to run 4.3... I may have too. An individuals comfort level with voltages will vary from person to person. I would prefer to run +0.125v for 24/7 but I think I'm willing to run +0.150v as well. I feel it is close enough to the Intel 1.3625v recommended max. I don't think my chip will degrade. There are people who run higher voltage 24/7 and claim to have no issuses. Who knows I'm may change my mind later and decide to run a slightly lower O.C. with less volts.

I'm in the same boat my friend..I have to run +0.150v to run 4.2ghz
and even the nexts one up to run 4.3ghz +0.200 i have tryed
them all at different vcore changes so I'm stuck at +0.125v
on 456x9.0=4104 at 1.328v and believe me it's temping to rising
the vcore for more ghz's but..I dont wanna fry my E8400
for bein greedy but has been stable at 4.5ghz b4 much higher
vcore..that's highest..I took it so..i guess i found out how high..
I can get it Oc'd with lowest voltage b4 over volting it
Thanks to you and to all that helped me

[mattkosem]

I'm in the same boat my friend..I have to run +0.150v to run 4.2ghz
and even the nexts one up to run 4.3ghz +0.200 i have tryed
them all at different vcore changes so I'm stuck at +0.125v
on 456x9.0=4104 at 1.328v and believe me it's temping to rising
the vcore for more ghz's but..I dont wanna fry my E8400
for bein greedy but has been stable at 4.5ghz b4 much higher
vcore..that's highest..I took it so..i guess i found out how high..
I can get it Oc'd with lowest voltage b4 over volting it
Thanks to you and to all that helped me

I've been running my 8600 at 1.44v since september. Not a hint of instability since. I've actually picked up 50mhz over what I was initially getting (4.55 vs 4.5) with some cooling upgrades. Run what you're comfortable with though...

--Matt

[bigwill68]

I've been running my 8600 at 1.44v since september. Not a hint of instability since. I've actually picked up 50mhz over what I was initially getting (4.55 vs 4.5) with some cooling upgrades. Run what you're comfortable with though...

--Matt

thanks man..i'm gonna keep here at 456x9.0=4104 at +0.125v in the bio's
for now my core temps idle at 32c on air cool lov'in thati'm pleased
with this batch# i picked up at micro center..I've been over there looking
and thhey have eight more E8400 EO all the same batches Q829A152 thinking
about buying another 1 just for the heck of it at $149 dollars and taxs
you can't beat that price

[Rich3077]

Well I have had fun with this board for the last couple of days. Reached 3.8 Ghz stable with my q9550 using 1.4 volts 450x8.5, but was having CPU heat issues. I had planned on trying to re-seat the xigmatek cooler today.

I fired up prime 95 to do a quick run and the computer died midway through the 3rd test. I unplugged the power supply and all the cables to the motherboard and popped out the battery, reset bios... still no luck.

I am aware that another user brought his board back to life by letting it sit for a few days but I don't have time for that because this is to be a christmas present so I am off to newegg to have a gigabyte EP45-UD3P board overnighted to me as they are out of stock locally. If the board comes back to life I will probably try it in my C2D rig.

Edit: Plan on testing power supply tonight Edit # 2 Tested power supply.. its the motherboard.. I hope.. and not the CPU.

[bigwill68]

aight working with vcore to get the lowest volts to keep it stable
all around..I took the BioStar TPower from +0.125v/1.336v down to
+0.100v/1.296v and ran Orthos & intelburntest passingI'm gonna
drop it some more until..I fail the tests to see where it stands at 4.1ghz
to hold stable...

[DoObs]

I just been testing this board against times i had achieved on my P35 DFI UT...and i must say the times are huge....

DFI :

E8400 @ 533fsb x 7.5 @ 4ghz
Crucials Tracers @ 1066 cas4 - 4 - 4 - 8
Voltage was 2.38v
Tweaking was done aswell both in the bios and using memset



Biostar

E8400 @ 533fsb x 7.5 @ 4ghz
Crucials Tracers @ 1066 Cas4 - 4 - 4 - 6
Voltage was 2.4v
Tweaking was done aswell both in the bios and using memset



Findings are that this board doesnt have the full capability to tweak the ram enough to get WR results for Super PI...unless running LN2 or Dice cooling, which i highly dont it will aswell be able to

DFI will always be better due to having these options

Enhance Data transmitting FAST
Enhance Addressing FAST
T2 Dispatch Disabled
Channel 1 CLK Crossing Setting More Aggressive
Channel 2 CLK Crossing Setting More Aggressive
CH1CH2 Common CLK Crossing Setting More Aggressive

So.... this next up 3dmark comparison to come

[PolRoger]

Here is where I'm at now with this chip. Using +0.150v vcore I wanted to try and get 9x479 DDR2-1150 stable but Prime will error out within 2hrs. I've now dropped it back to 477 and it looks like it has stabilized. I'm using the Xigmatek Red Scorpion and one kit of Cell Shock PC2-8500.

[dro]

sorry for the long absent
finally tamed the mobo

for stablity
here is wat i would suggest

1) if u plan to run IBT test......do it under diagnostic mode. cuz u need to stress at least 1500mb of memory for it to be stable. anything less than that (regardless how many runs) would not be so stable.....trust me
here a screenshot of what i did

16xxmb of mem used for IBT 50RUN
E8400 E0 (445X9)
Biostar Tpower rev5.1 A2
2x1GB Crucial 10th Anniversary (890mhz 5-5-5-15-36 PL9)
Xigmateck Achilles S1284


will upload the settings later
i jes saved this to my thumbdrive on the way to work just now
too bad it will only work at 1:1 mem divider.....i wished it could run at 5:6

FSB oc coming up

[Damian^]

Has there been any talk about pencil modding for the Tpower I45 in this board or anywhere on XS? I would love to pencil mod my Tpower but i have never done such a mod?
Any help is appreciated
Regards

Damian

[DonNiger]

Has there been any talk about pencil modding for the Tpower I45 in this board or anywhere on XS? I would love to pencil mod my Tpower but i have never done such a mod?
Any help is appreciated
Regards

Damian

What for do you need voltmods? Mine did not have vdroop and it has a plenty of room for adding volts? Unless you are going to use LN, but in taht case you should look up for your soldering tools....