I disagree, you're better off getting a fast 65nm k8 cpu instead because they consume much less power and offer close to the same performance and will cost less. This cpu is a joke, I mean come on selling something that's double rebandaged? People have on nvidia from doing that but its ok for amd? This should have never seen the market, especially this late in the game.

As I said, right now deneb seems to be the only glimpse of hope for amd since shanghai hasn't done much for them yet