Yeah but it was in the context of "safe" Vcore,which we are trying to debate on.Not the power draw numbers which indeed are good.If one good air cooler can cool down Phenom I 9950 rated at 140W as absolute max TDP while being overvolted to 1.55V(from 1.3V default) and OCed to 3.2-3.3Ghz[power draw would be ~220-240W as absolute worst case scenario] ,you can be sure Shanghai/Deneb will be also cooled by
the same cooler even if it was running at ~1.55V and 4Ghz OC.The point is now that stock Vcore is even higher ,power draw dropped due to physics of thansistors at smaller node.1.55V is just 14% over stock and is not that much for an air cooling device to control it.
And he was correct since he spoke about Vcore difference...
Sorry for that,but some people wanted to know what's considered "safe" 24/7 Vcore for air cooling.I gave my opinion,it may be i'm wrong
.For definite answer we need thorough report from independent review (temperatures reported in OCed mode) and we need AMD's tech docs .
Originally Posted by informal
Yeah but it was in the context of "safe" Vcore,which we are trying to debate on.Not the power draw numbers which indeed are good.If one good air cooler can cool down Phenom I 9950 rated at 140W as absolute max TDP while being overvolted to 1.55V(from 1.3V default) and OCed to 3.2-3.3Ghz[power draw would be ~220-240W as absolute worst case scenario] ,you can be sure Shanghai/Deneb will be also cooled by the same cooler even if it was running at ~1.55V and 4Ghz OC.The point is now that stock Vcore is even higher ,power draw dropped due to physics of thansistors at smaller node.1.55V is just 14% over stock and is not that much for an air cooling device to control it.Your problem is that you are blind to the truth until you need it to make a point, your point, then all of a sudden it's relevant. Seriously, you need to heed my advice.
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