ASUS Maximus II Formula - new P45 king?

[Deboyzfun]

i think 1307, still the best, 1802 is better than others, multi switched twice on me when i overclocked at high rates, i also think a little better band with, seems to boot faster.

[CryptiK]

i think 1302, still the best, 1802 is better than others, multi switched twice on me when i overclocked at high rates, i also think a little better band with, seems to boot faster.

Do you mean the multiplier changed itself when you were overclocked in windows, or it did not boot at what you set it to in BIOS?

Anyone done an everest bandwidth/latency comparison at the same settings with 1307 vs 1802?

[Ourasi]

hmm I was playing recently with GTL witch made me stable 10pases of Linpack and around 1h of Blend on 3.97ghz and I stopped because it was late but it looked like 4ghz is just there after another 5mins of tweaking.

Yesterday with same same settings I was not stable at 3.97 :O hmm crashing after 2-3mins of blend .

Anybody had issues like this? One day stable other not? All temps were in acceptable range around 50 for NB and SB and 47 for Power so I would not say they are the factor here - but I might be mistaken.

If in your case dear reader you never had situation like this on MF2 (one day stable other not) then also pls write as it is same importance info to me as if some one had same funny acting from Mobo.

Any input is welcome.

Have experienced this issue, and found out after alot of testing that the CPU just is on the border of what it can take. My Q9550 was seemingly stable at 3.83ghz at 1,375v even 10runs of Linpack64 with 8gb ram, next reboot and it would not even be stable in ventrilo or general low power usage.
Backing it down to 3.7ghz fixed it permanently, and adding volt to the CPU@3.83ghz did not fix it, neither did adding NB/FSB volts to the m/b. My M2F seems to show the same instability on all quads at or around 450fsb, so I have given up on high FSB for 24/7 usage..

If adding volt to the CPU still produces instability, you could be seeing the end of the line for this chip, and if it's the FSB that causes the problems there is still possible tweaking left, but it might be a loong road ahead. I would suggest that you back off 100mhz or so, since trying to get it stable above the FSB/Mhz wall you are hitting might not be worth the hassle... Mine seemed better on 1:1 setting, but not not quite perfect there either....

I got hold of a very good QX9650@Q9550 price, and are now easily doing 4.0ghz 24/7 with 1.320v load with silent aircooling, I might go for more speed later if I can get hold of a "Ultra Kaze" at 1000-3000rpm, since this chip can reach 4.5-4.6ghz on air (allthough hotter then hell @ these clocks).
4.2ghz is the 24/7 target, as it needs around 1.40v for linpack stability, but for now 4.0ghz at very nice temps and silence, will do me just fine...

[GeorgeVasil]

Washers Mode ON..

[CryptiK]

Much better George, good work. Made a big difference to my board too.

[GeorgeVasil]

Thanks Cryptik..

I forgot to mention that i use a BTX case...!

[Eeky NoX]

Yeah quiet better like that m8...+1 for the WasherMod \o/

But don't care about that honnestly : what's up wit this MF bios men ?? Are we arrived at the end of the tunnel or what Cryptic ?

Gat my 12gb of DDR2 tomorow, so if it works for the bw : I'm buyin'

[Grnfinger]

BIOS 1802

Lock'd multi ---FIXED
tREF --- 4174
Pull Ins --- still not working
Bandwidth --- unchanged altho my copy speed is up about 300mb/s

Seems Asus is making very very slow progress, new bios is stable and is supposed to offer us quad owners alittle more stability, so for those with troubles trying to get a chip stable try this bios.
Pull-Ins still do not work, tREF is unlikely to change for ram compatibility, seems to boot faster altho I did not time it, I have 1307 on bios 1 and 1802 on bios 2 so maybe later I will measure boot time. Going to try and lower volts now will edit and update this post if I can run lower on any setting.

1307



1802

[ThugsRook]

Washers Mode ON...

thx for the washer mod results

my stupid P5Q doesnt report temps so its interesting for me to finally see them

[N3it1]

I should be getting this mobo tomorrow,whats the best bios for my Q9300?Im running 4x1gb corsair 800mhz DDR2 (maybe this effects the bios choice?)
I have read that the latest ones aint too shabby but cant find the one you guys preferred.

[JoeBar]

Washers Mode ON..

Very nice George! Seems that washers did the job.
Seems like my board should also benefit from them but there's no way i'm unistalling it...

BIOS 1802

Lock'd multi ---FIXED
tREF --- 4174
Pull Ins --- still not working
Bandwidth --- unchanged altho my copy speed is up about 300mb/s

Seems Asus is making very very slow progress, new bios is stable and is supposed to offer us quad owners alittle more stability, so for those with troubles trying to get a chip stable try this bios.
Pull-Ins still do not work, tREF is unlikely to change for ram compatibility, seems to boot faster altho I did not time it, I have 1307 on bios 1 and 1802 on bios 2 so maybe later I will measure boot time. Going to try and lower volts now will edit and update this post if I can run lower on any setting.

Thanks for sharing your findings m8!
I believe that the major bugs like vtt/vnb and pcie are still there...?

[Grnfinger]

Thanks for sharing your findings m8!
I believe that the major bugs like vtt/vnb and pcie are still there...?

I will try to confirm this shortly

[JoeBar]

I will try to confirm this shortly

Thanks m8! Waiting for your findings...

[dawdaw]

Hi all, just got my M2F a week ago and it's running fine till now, i wanted a A3 revision but couldn't resist, so now i'm a happy camper with A2, temps are correct and the Leds remind me of carnavals. once again Thanks CryptiK and all members in here for this great thread.

[seban]

Have experienced this issue, and found out after alot of testing that the CPU just is on the border of what it can take. My Q9550 was seemingly stable at 3.83ghz at 1,375v even 10runs of Linpack64 with 8gb ram, next reboot and it would not even be stable in ventrilo or general low power usage....

Thanks for info. I bumped volts and it is stable again at 3.97ghz. Degradation or lucky 10 linpacks and 1h Prime Blend on lower voltage day before?

Anyway can't get it stable at 4ghz so far. Will test today 1802 bios maybe it will change something.

Also what voltage is considered safe for 24/7 q9550 in stress on Air? I read something about 1.365 which I am currently on

[Grnfinger]

Thanks m8! Waiting for your findings...

I cant get the vtt nb hang to happen...could someone else test this

PCIE will boot till 106 then no post @ 475FSB ... could others test this as well

[seban]

I cant get the vtt nb hang to happen...could someone else test this

PCIE will boot till 106 then no post @ 475FSB ... could others test this as well

That sounds v nice. I will test vtt vNB gap and also PCIe once I get home.

[ViViD]

Hi



But Is Not Stable

[TouGe]

BIOS 1802

Lock'd multi ---FIXED
tREF --- 4174
Pull Ins --- still not working
Bandwidth --- unchanged altho my copy speed is up about 300mb/s

Seems Asus is making very very slow progress, new bios is stable and is supposed to offer us quad owners alittle more stability, so for those with troubles trying to get a chip stable try this bios.
Pull-Ins still do not work, tREF is unlikely to change for ram compatibility, seems to boot faster altho I did not time it, I have 1307 on bios 1 and 1802 on bios 2 so maybe later I will measure boot time. Going to try and lower volts now will edit and update this post if I can run lower on any setting.

Thanks for the info. This will be the first new BIOS I've tried since 1307, looking forward to giving it a whirl.

[radaja]

does any one know if there is any maxII rev A3 yet? just noticed that there sending out A3 P5Q-deluxes.

[Grnfinger]

Changelog 1802

1. Add "Intel(R) C-STATE tech" item
2. Revise CPU Speed when "Ai Overclock Tuner" is "Auto"
3. Fix MultiBug
4. Fix CoreCountNumber
5. Fix Intel 45nm Quad Core CPU ustability issue
6. Fix show wrong Vcore in AI Suite
7. Fix it take too many time to detect SATA Device under AHCI Mode

[andressergio]

Changelog 1802

1. Add "Intel(R) C-STATE tech" item
2. Revise CPU Speed when "Ai Overclock Tuner" is "Auto"
3. Fix MultiBug
4. Fix CoreCountNumber
5. Fix Intel 45nm Quad Core CPU ustability issue
6. Fix show wrong Vcore in AI Suite
7. Fix it take too many time to detect SATA Device under AHCI Mode

what was this issue ?
5. Fix Intel 45nm Quad Core CPU ustability issue

[JoeBar]

Changelog 1802

1. Add "Intel(R) C-STATE tech" item
2. Revise CPU Speed when "Ai Overclock Tuner" is "Auto"
3. Fix MultiBug
4. Fix CoreCountNumber
5. Fix Intel 45nm Quad Core CPU ustability issue
6. Fix show wrong Vcore in AI Suite
7. Fix it take too many time to detect SATA Device under AHCI Mode

Items 1 and 2 are included in the changelog of 1702 bios.

Items 5,6 and 7 are included in the changelog of 1602 bios.


Is this the true changelog of 1802 bios or asus is playing with us...?

[Grnfinger]

this is quoted from Asus forums

[unex|st]

I've just flashed the new 1802 bios and I can confirm it is booting much faster now.
Memory performance is exactly the same as 1307 and wrong multiplier issue at power on is still present (resetting the system will apply the correct multiplier).
All SATA ports seem to be working correctly (using 1x raid0 array and 2x raid1 arrays)

1307


1802


BIOS settings

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.0
FSB Frequency : 400 MHz
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
North Bridge Clock Skew : Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400 MHz
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066 MHz
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Delay 100pS
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Advance 100pS
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Auto


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 60
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 7
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 5
Write to Write Delay (S) : 5
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 6
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 6

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Dram Read Training : Auto
MEM OC Charger : Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Lighter
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled


PCIE Frequency : 100

CPU Voltage : 1.375
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
FSBT : 1.10
DRAM Voltage : 1.97
North Bridge Voltage : 1.139
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.50
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.10

CPU GTL Reference 0 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 1 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 2 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 3 : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference : Auto

Load Line Calibration : Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled