The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[youraa]

Hi guys sorry for the lame question but gotta change from q6600 to q9550 tomorrow nad get the machine stable for work, what would be the best one?
recently I'm on 907, working on 3600 450x8 900Mhz.
Thx for the help!

[jtf2]

would the nb waterblock heatsink on the maximus formula se,work well enough as a passive air heatsink,as in no water going thru it?/
thnx

[clip]

no, but

ffs wut time is it *dazed & confused* - passive Wb is silly

nn

[jtf2]

no, but

ffs wut time is it *dazed & confused* - passive Wb is silly

nn

only reason i am asking is i may have borked my rampage formula,i have a line on the mf se board,but do not want to watercool the nb

[Jodiuh]

Mine usually runs about 54C when the voltage is pushed to it. Right now at stock with all fans on high (1.34V) it's still over 43C w/stock cooling.

If you have the non nipple version, a quiet low CFM fan like the one off a Jing Ting NB cooler works extremely well. I stuck some plastic pins in the holes to secure it. It cools about 5-7C better on my setup. Currently running @ 38C or so w/ 1.33V to it.

Images are clickable and I've since cut down the pins to a better size.

[Grnfinger]

only reason i am asking is i may have borked my rampage formula,i have a line on the mf se board,but do not want to watercool the nb

With good air flow there is no need to water cool the NB if you have the fuzion block.
I would point a fan at it to help keep temps in check, but as long as your NB stays around 47-50c full load then it wont be an issue

Hi guys sorry for the lame question but gotta change from q6600 to q9550 tomorrow nad get the machine stable for work, what would be the best one?
recently I'm on 907, working on 3600 450x8 900Mhz.
Thx for the help!

1004 was best for me, but if your Q9550 is E0 you will nedd bios 1207 iirc or higher
Someone correct me if I'm wrong please.

[t_ski]

If you have the non nipple version, a quiet low CFM fan like the one off a Jing Ting NB cooler works extremely well. I stuck some plastic pins in the holes to secure it. It cools about 5-7C better on my setup. Currently running @ 38C or so w/ 1.33V to it.

Images are clickable and I've since cut down the pins to a better size.

I had a 70mm fan off an AMD stock heatsink on it a while back and it worked wonders. Right now that's a bit too big for the Noctua I have on there right now. I just used a couple screws from the heatsink to put it in there (watching for any metal that may have come off the heatsink when the screws went in of course).

[rangerone7669]

i'm in need of new ram for my MF. i'm looking for a 2x2gig kit, whick kits are running the best in this board?

i'm running a q6600 and is very picky with settings while running 4x1gig sticks. its wierd because with a e8400 4x1gig is easy as pie.

[Allubz]

What runs best in what terms?

Do you want high performance RAM or value RAM?

Nearly any stick does it job pretty well on the MF / RF board and the overclocking potential is mainly determined by the chipset used.

If you want high quality RAM then simply get G.Skill / Cellshock / Team Xtreme and the likes. Just check the DDR2 list I posted here before (not mine) and see what sticks got Micron chips or Google the ones you find in the net and see whether they clock high.

There's another very good (newer) chip out there just like the two top-end Microns, but I forgot what it's called.

[youraa]

1004 was best for me, but if your Q9550 is E0 you will nedd bios 1207 iirc or higher
Someone correct me if I'm wrong please.

Unfortunately, I've got the C1 version with a vid 1.200, got it from a friend, it's from april this year, I have the 1207 bios installed

right now I have 3.6 (8.5x 400) strap 333, on 1.185 cpu v ??? and it's quite stable.
I booted 3.74 but didn't get it stable yet, My aim is 450x8,5 but still no luck in booting to it((
Would you think that bios change could do the trick? I mean downgrade the bios from the newest version?
Maybe somenoe can post his setting to achieve that? )thx!

Or maybe I need higher operating RAM?? I mean at least 1066mhz hmmm I'm a bit lost here,on my q6600 it worked 450x8 easy on strap 400, and i had stable 3.6, is there a fsb problem over 400mhz with this cpu?

[Grnfinger]

has ne1 tested Bios version 0701 for Rampage Formula dated 11/27/2008?

Unfortunately, I've got the C1 version with a vid 1.200, got it from a friend, it's from april this year, I have the 1207 bios installed

right now I have 3.6 (8.5x 400) strap 333, on 1.185 cpu v ??? and it's quite stable.
I booted 3.74 but didn't get it stable yet, My aim is 450x8,5 but still no luck in booting to it((
Would you think that bios change could do the trick? I mean downgrade the bios from the newest version?
Maybe somenoe can post his setting to achieve that? )thx!

Or maybe I need higher operating RAM?? I mean at least 1066mhz hmmm I'm a bit lost here,on my q6600 it worked 450x8 easy on strap 400, and i had stable 3.6, is there a fsb problem over 400mhz with this cpu?

When I had my Q9550 in the Maximus X38 running Rampage bios 308 my max was 433 FSB anything above that it would not post.
Rampage bios 701 is supposed to resolve this issue, this is why I ask'd if anyone tested it yet.
My Q9950 on M2F will hit 496FSb so its not a cpu problem its a chipset issue.

Here is my rampage 3.825GHz setting, I'm sure you could adapt it

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1021

CLOCK SKEW Normal both channels

DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : W/E your cpu needs
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.22
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

[rangerone7669]

What runs best in what terms?

Do you want high performance RAM or value RAM?

Nearly any stick does it job pretty well on the MF / RF board and the overclocking potential is mainly determined by the chipset used.

If you want high quality RAM then simply get G.Skill / Cellshock / Team Xtreme and the likes. Just check the DDR2 list I posted here before (not mine) and see what sticks got Micron chips or Google the ones you find in the net and see whether they clock high.

There's another very good (newer) chip out there just like the two top-end Microns, but I forgot what it's called.

i'm looking for a 4gig kit thats NOT micron based and can run 1066-1100mhz. i dont want to spend $300 on the 1200mhz gskills, i want to try and keep the price at about 100 or less.

i have a set of 2x1gig axerams that run 1280mhz, but i really need 4gigs for what i do.

i'm just asking what 4gig kits people have had good luck running with a q6600.
like i said in a previous post, with a e8400 in my MF i can run 4x1gigs at 1150 no sweat, but put the quad in and it gets very picky about settings and needs 2.3volts on the dram and 1.7 on the nb for 24/7 stability.

[Grnfinger]

i'm looking for a 4gig kit thats NOT micron based and can run 1066-1100mhz. i dont want to spend $300 on the 1200mhz gskills, i want to try and keep the price at about 100 or less.

i have a set of 2x1gig axerams that run 1280mhz, but i really need 4gigs for what i do.

i'm just asking what 4gig kits people have had good luck running with a q6600.
like i said in a previous post, with a e8400 in my MF i can run 4x1gigs at 1150 no sweat, but put the quad in and it gets very picky about settings and needs 2.3volts on the dram and 1.7 on the nb for 24/7 stability.

Many good kits out there
imo avoid OCZ and Crucial

1. Corsair (any model)
2. GSkill
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231148
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231195
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231166 ( best choice imo)
3. Mushkin

[youraa]

has ne1 tested Bios version 0701 for Rampage Formula dated 11/27/2008?





When I had my Q9550 in the Maximus X38 running Rampage bios 308 my max was 433 FSB anything above that it would not post.
Rampage bios 701 is supposed to resolve this issue, this is why I ask'd if anyone tested it yet.
My Q9950 on M2F will hit 496FSb so its not a cpu problem its a chipset issue.

Here is my rampage 3.825GHz setting, I'm sure you could adapt it

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1021

CLOCK SKEW Normal both channels

DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : W/E your cpu needs
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.22
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

many thx! will try to play with that, and I will do pictures of my kinda stable setting 3655(without stress tests gaming+work+internet

Now my NB is much lower than when I shot these it's 1.51 )) - the 1.61 was a q6600 setting

[Zucker2k]

i'm looking for a 4gig kit thats NOT micron based and can run 1066-1100mhz. i dont want to spend $300 on the 1200mhz gskills, i want to try and keep the price at about 100 or less.

i have a set of 2x1gig axerams that run 1280mhz, but i really need 4gigs for what i do.

i'm just asking what 4gig kits people have had good luck running with a q6600.
like i said in a previous post, with a e8400 in my MF i can run 4x1gigs at 1150 no sweat, but put the quad in and it gets very picky about settings and needs 2.3volts on the dram and 1.7 on the nb for 24/7 stability.

Since I picked up 8GBs of the 7200s, my PC2-8500 G.Skills 4GB kit is up for sale. The sticks do 1100+ easy. I managed to push them all the way to 1180 one time. These are very good sticks, I've seen no other sticks of this particular series reach the frequency these sticks have. PM me if interested.

PS: I'll be posting my results with the 7200s soon.

[rangerone7669]

Many good kits out there
imo avoid OCZ and Crucial

1. Corsair (any model)
2. GSkill
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231148
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231195
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231166 ( best choice imo)
3. Mushkin

Since I picked up 8GBs of the 7200s, my PC2-8500 G.Skills 4GB kit is up for sale. The sticks do 1100+ easy. I managed to push them all the way to 1180 one time. These are very good sticks, I've seen no other sticks of this particular series reach the frequency these sticks have. PM me if interested.

PS: I'll be posting my results with the 7200s soon.

i've been looking at gskill's, but i've never used them. glad to see others have had good luck with them.

[MJR]

to update the Rampage bios on the Maximus Formula do I need to use Afudos again? or can I use Asus update? I'm brave, I'll test the 0701 release.

[MJR]

has ne1 tested Bios version 0701 for Rampage Formula dated 11/27/2008?





When I had my Q9550 in the Maximus X38 running Rampage bios 308 my max was 433 FSB anything above that it would not post.
Rampage bios 701 is supposed to resolve this issue, this is why I ask'd if anyone tested it yet.
My Q9950 on M2F will hit 496FSb so its not a cpu problem its a chipset issue.

Here is my rampage 3.825GHz setting, I'm sure you could adapt it

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1021

I think your math is off.

8.5 x 425 is not 3.825

[youraa]

to update the Rampage bios on the Maximus Formula do I need to use Afudos again? or can I use Asus update? I'm brave, I'll test the 0701 release.

Where can I download it from? Maybe it would solve the issue of the chipset block on 430fsb, and finally I could hit 3.825 )

[Grnfinger]

Where can I download it from? Maybe it would solve the issue of the chipset block on 430fsb, and finally I could hit 3.825 )

http://cid-988b91f35a949678.skydrive...rmula-0701.rom

[youraa]

http://cid-988b91f35a949678.skydrive...rmula-0701.rom

thx I added above the screenshots of my bios settings

[youraa]

to update the Rampage bios on the Maximus Formula do I need to use Afudos again? or can I use Asus update? I'm brave, I'll test the 0701 release.

Let us know the results maybe finally it could go over 430fsb )
Oh and what is your VID? Do you have a C1 version?

[junkun13]

help! I'm having random crashes with this settings, sometimes it gives me memory dump error, sometimes it will restart instantly specially when i play games such as GTA IV.

here is my bios setting:

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Setting : 10.0
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 266Mhz
FSB Frequency : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1203Mhz
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A: Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B: Normal
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information : 5-5-5-18-3-42-6-3
2nd Information : All Auto
3rd Information : All Auto
DRAM Static Read Control : Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level : 05
Pull-In of CHA PH1 : Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 : Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 : Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 : Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.26875
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.41
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.24
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 10.0
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

[Grnfinger]

help! I'm having random crashes with this settings, sometimes it gives me memory dump error, sometimes it will restart instantly specially when i play games such as GTA IV.

here is my bios setting:

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Setting : 10.0
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 266Mhz
FSB Frequency : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1203Mhz
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A: Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B: Normal
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information : 5-5-5-18-3-42-6-3
2nd Information : All Auto
3rd Information : All Auto
DRAM Static Read Control : Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level : 05
Pull-In of CHA PH1 : Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 : Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 : Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 : Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.26875
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.41
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.24
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 10.0
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

vNB is to low for the 266 strap, try 1.47-1.49-1.51
set trfc (row refresh cycle time) to 55

[Zucker2k]

I'm sharing my results with the F2-7200CL4PI-B. I made a separate thread just to see if there are any other sticks with > or similar results; no biters yet

Thread: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=210381

Not bad at all imo; and once again, I need modest volts for the NB with 8GBs and FSB of 471. Quad 32m prime stable. The very low timings are what blows me away though. I was thinking this would translate into higher max frequency on CL5, but I was wrong. This seems more a product of the Ics themselves. It's close to perfect for me, but I'm still tweaking cpu volts, as well as pushing for 475fsb 1:1. Enjoy!

Rampage Formula x48, bios 0308
Q9550, C1 @ 8.5x471fsb
4x2GB G.Skill PC2-7200 CL4 @ 942mhz, 1:1, PL7 with the following settings:

Primary: 4-4-3-9-1-40-4-2

Secondary: 7-2-4-4-6-4-6

Tertiary: 11-4-1-4-4

Volts are in the screenies....

Windows Server 2008 x64 (Everyday OS)

My 24/7... not fully tweaked yet.


Same...


475fsb


500FSB CL5 with the quad is easy, but only possible at PL9; though all pull-in phases on CHA can be enabled. Does that make it a PL8.5? Don't ask me.