Quote Originally Posted by Chad Boga View Post
I think you are overstating Phenom's competiveness, possibly on the basis of gaming benchmarks where being GPU limited made the Phenoms look closer than they really were.

I suspect most people buy a CPU wanting a bit of performance headroom for future games/applications, not just settling for what is good enough right now.

Whilst I disagree that is a reasonable summation of the various reasons for C2Q's success, I suspect that Dual Core C2's have hurt AMD far more than the Quads.
I don't wanna see this thread pushed to the same place as the others in the past.But for the CPU bound game like GTA4,Phenom looks quite competitive:
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,6...essors/?page=2
("The Phenom X4 9950 easily passes the Q6600 and theoretically is on the same level as the Q6700 (not included in the benchmark)." )
It was shown before that Phenom trails C2Q(65nm) by ~5% on average.The main selling point of the C2Q and Conroe was their great OCing potential.
Now can we get back to PhII topic now?