Well guys went to the small conference they had for the Dragon Platform aka Deneb(Phenom II). They had the deneb oc'd to 5.8Ghz stable running the crysis bench. Pretty nice...they had the vcore up to 1.92(will probably pop the QX9650) on LN2. No coldbugs @ -140 are you serious?. I am very impressed!!! Its time for AMD to redeem themselves. AMD hit home run with this cpu. Best thing is they run stable on the 790GX no problems what so ever, had cpu-z pushed to 6.3Ghz. Were talkin a $275 cpu according to the AMD reps. Sure looks like there is definately going to be some heavy competition against the I7. Still compatible with AM2+ sockets...the Gigabyte GA-MA790GP-DS4H seems to be pushing the Deneb pretty good.