Retail AMD Phenom II X4 (Deneb) OC spotted

[Calmatory]

I agree, the results thus far suggest the "leaked" amd shots are monstrous one of a kind cherry chips. That or 4.6ghz+ requires ln2 or a 3 stage cascade, which means although good chips, just match intel. Not bad and it means competition to the average joe who is not going core i7.

However the lack of "leaked"(everything has been leaked already) game benchmarks I think is a sign that, game performance is lacking.

How is game performance lacking? It is basically the same as the old Phenom performance, with some improvements.

People should get that the BIG thing about Phenom II/Deneb is indeed the OC and power draw, not the performance gains really. Only slight gains over Phenom. ...until the overclocking steps in and all the tables roll over and turn upside down due to great OC capabilities.

AMD will be showing off their stuff in few hours at San Fran. If they had something to hide, they would not hold these events.

All the leaks have possibly been more or less under NDA, and only good few people have guts to show stuff at all. Besides, usually it is Intel and Nvidia that leak stuff, AMD keeps everything so secret that even their CEO barely knows what's going on...

AMD wants people to talk. Talk about Phenom II. Thus the small leaks here and there.

since when we started believing software for temps? even more with unreleased products that most of the time dont have full software support.

Temps are not important you just need to know MHz headroom

At least for me load temps matter quite a bit. It directly correlates with the power draw, which then has it's small influence in the power bill and temperature of the other components in the case. It also gives some insight about the quality of the stock cooler and max oc with it. Idle temps, useless...