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    wow you guys found grate chip
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    Anyway Francois, lets get back on track. This chip you had with Charles.... I'm going to assume that chip quality, follows something like a normal population Gausian curve. So where on this curve does the chip you and charles messed with lie? I can do the numbers later.



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    Quote Originally Posted by massman View Post
    Since when has 5G i7 anything to do with Belgium

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    no comment!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drwho? View Post

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    The start of a Belgian-Franco war! .....
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    Quote Originally Posted by [XC] riptide View Post
    Anyway Francois, lets get back on track. This chip you had with Charles.... I'm going to assume that chip quality, follows something like a normal population Gausian curve. So where on this curve does the chip you and charles messed with lie? I can do the numbers later.

    What does 'x = -2' stand for? The very bad overclocking chips or the chips that just don't work. Is the starting point the standard clock frequency of your chip or is it the lowest stable frequency of a certain batch of processors.
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    Is there still something coming? CPU-Z-screens, benchmark results, Cinebench or 3DMark Vantage CPU-test (8 threads)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sampsa View Post
    Is there still something coming? CPU-Z-screens, benchmark results, Cinebench or 3DMark Vantage CPU-test (8 threads)?


    You have CPUZ screen in the youtube video
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    Quote Originally Posted by Movieman View Post
    Oh God! I can see it now!
    The start of a Belgian-Franco war! .....
    yeah there have always been "tension" between French and Belgian (just humor), creates a lot of jokes about these 2 communities. I love the French focus they are, it's a killer love but funny (same for us which speaking English or orthers language )

    we love too much to say, we prefer to invent jokes and make fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pt1t View Post


    You have CPUZ screen in the youtube video

    I did program the CPUID myself, I may have done a typo ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drwho? View Post
    I did program the CPUID myself, I may have done a typo ...
    Does this mean that this specific product is not for sale?
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    Quote Originally Posted by massman View Post
    Does this mean that this specific product is not for sale?

    haaaaaaaaaaaaa an attack for the belgiums .... ;-)

    well, i said it at the beginning, those are special chips. I started with this.
    I was very very very very clear from the beginning. Those are special chips, and I don t want to give more details. They are using the today's selling chip settings. (return to the beginning of the demo presentation, and you ll see how i introduced the demo, it is a manufacturer demo, they are Core i7 ... and that's it )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drwho? View Post
    haaaaaaaaaaaaa an attack for the belgiums .... ;-)

    well, i said it at the beginning, those are special chips. I started with this.
    I was very very very very clear from the beginning. Those are special chips, and I don t want to give more details. They are using the today's selling chip settings. (return to the beginning of the demo presentation, and you ll see how i introduced the demo, it is a manufacturer demo, they are Core i7 ... and that's it )
    And this is going into the books as a WR, leaving nothing but spoils of war for people that are going to try and catch up to this 45nm I7 record...

    False competition sucks, should atleast have called it an WTFBBQ 970 I7 or smth...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drwho? View Post
    haaaaaaaaaaaaa an attack for the belgiums .... ;-)

    well, i said it at the beginning, those are special chips. I started with this.
    I was very very very very clear from the beginning. Those are special chips, and I don t want to give more details. They are using the today's selling chip settings. (return to the beginning of the demo presentation, and you ll see how i introduced the demo, it is a manufacturer demo, they are Core i7 ... and that's it )

    You should consider a career in politics. You talk a lot but you never answered massman's question

    Will this kind of chips be for sale, ever?

    You're saying they use today's selling chip's settings but yet in another post you just told you programmed the cpuid, thus making it different from the current retail chips, or am I wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BieBiep View Post
    And this is going into the books as a WR, leaving nothing but spoils of war for people that are going to try and catch up to this 45nm I7 record...

    False competition sucks

    [<= Belgian here] :p
    wait wait wait ... you can always find a side effect for everything ... The demo started with the idea that Manufacturer demos are useless, you just made my point !!!! thanks!
    Don't blame anybody, it is exactly what we wanted to proove!

    Concidere his demo as "out of Category", as they have in the Guiness world record book some time. fair?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drwho? View Post
    wait wait wait ... you can always find a side effect for everything ... The demo started with the idea that Manufacturer demos are useless, you just made my point !!!! thanks!
    Don't blame anybody, it is exactly what we wanted to proove!

    Concidere his demo as "out of Category", as they have in the Guiness world record book some time. fair?


    Next step then => Intel should organize an OC-cup like mobo-manufacturers do, but everyone can take the mobo of his pleasing.

    Maybe then we'll get some real numbers on who's got the best quality mobo?
    (Superchips in every mobo must put the limit on the mobo rather than the chip?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gendo View Post
    You should consider a career in politics. You talk a lot but you never answered massman's question

    Will this kind of chips be for sale, ever?

    You're saying they use today's selling chip's settings but yet in another post you just told you programmed the cpuid, thus making it different from the current retail chips, or am I wrong?
    Those are CPUs I have in my lab to play with, The point is clear , Manufacturer can do demos that does not reflect always what gets to the market! This is EXACTLY the point I wanted to make from the beginning.

    I WARNED many time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sampsa View Post
    Is there still something coming? CPU-Z-screens, benchmark results, Cinebench or 3DMark Vantage CPU-test (8 threads)?
    That is the question I have been wondering also.....

    Please show off your results as I am quite curious to the scores that will be put up by this CPU at such great speeds.

    It is a nice CPU. Hope you have a good time with it fugger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian y. View Post
    That is the question I have been wondering also.....

    Please show off your results as I am quite curious to the scores that will be put up by this CPU at such great speeds.

    It is a nice CPU. Hope you have a good time with it fugger.
    After AMD release their 6.3Ghz bench results !

    just kidding, remember, it is a manufacturer demo ... with all the tricky that goes with it. (we finally got to the point! ) It toke you time guys!

    later on, you ll get everything, just need to clean up my typos.
    remember the point I was trying to make: "demos are demos ... make your own opinion with what you can touch"

    When I use special chips, I say it loud and clear, when it is normal chips, you ll see no special notes. I oppose very hard the special chip demos inside my own company, but I had to make a point that it is easy for a manufacturer to put a demo that shine, without really reflecting the market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drwho? View Post
    wait wait wait ... you can always find a side effect for everything ... The demo started with the idea that Manufacturer demos are useless, you just made my point !!!! thanks!
    Don't blame anybody, it is exactly what we wanted to proove!

    Concidere his demo as "out of Category", as they have in the Guiness world record book some time. fair?
    Come one man... It's your credibility on the line here. This thread and all others regarding this MEGA chip that is doing 5GHz on air, is reffering to i7 965. This is what people are talking about.
    I don't give a cent if FUGGER gets to upload his scores in HWBOT with these chips, this is not the point.
    The point is that several dedicated Intel consumers paid 1000 EUR to get a 965 retail chip and now they should feel like a beta testers...

    Since revision 5 chips were ready and SO close to rev. 4 chips' launch...

    Anyway, my EUROVISION points are going to Belgium next year...

    Edit: Oh, now I just checked your last post. So I guess you made a road trip to Vegas just to prove that AMD's session in Texas was with a MEGA cherry picked chip????
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    awesome thx for information once again Francois

    you have my deepest respect for playing with open cards

    was a pleassure to see you guys keep pushing it, and thats what its all about

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drwho? View Post
    Well, i said it at the beginning, those are special chips. I started with this.
    I was very very very very clear from the beginning. Those are special chips, and I don t want to give more details. They are using the today's selling chip settings. (return to the beginning of the demo presentation, and you ll see how i introduced the demo, it is a manufacturer demo, they are Core i7 ... and that's it )
    There's a giant difference between special as in "what an awesome overclocker" and special as in "not available for costumers". In what range is this chip using the same settings as today's selling chips? If no one knows why this chip is so special, no one can accurately rate the excellence of this overclock and therefor only your manufacturers demo is pointless.

    Quote Originally Posted by Drwho? View Post
    Those are CPUs I have in my lab to play with, The point is clear , Manufacturer can do demos that does not reflect always what gets to the market! This is EXACTLY the point I wanted to make from the beginning.
    Sorry if I'm wrong here, but I think you need to rephrase that as: "AMD's demo does not reflect what gets to the market". I don't understand the point of this so called manufacturer's demo if the only information we get is that this particular chip is so special, that it's one of a kind. Doesn't that only prove that no one will be able to hit that kind of speeds through retail market?

    I don't really get why your special chip is only hitting 5G on air anyway. Rol-co already showed us his 4.8G chip on air. Using a special sample you only get 200MHz more?

    So many questions, so little answers ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by massman View Post
    There's a giant difference between special as in "what an awesome overclocker" and special as in "not available for costumers". In what range is this chip using the same settings as today's selling chips? If no one knows why this chip is so special, no one can accurately rate the excellence of this overclock and therefor only your manufacturers demo is pointless.
    This is exactly the point we wanted to make , when a manufacturer demo OC, it does have resources that you ll never get ... making it unrealistic ...
    The point is that it is pointless, so, it is not pointless, see the point! lol!

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    let's tune it down, otherwise, they will send us Jean Claude Vandam!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drwho? View Post
    let's tune it down, otherwise, they will send us Jean Claude Vandam!
    LOl; I'd like to see Van Damme vs Ci7 (Cyborg x1k).

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