So who will be getting Phenom 2 right off the bat

[Titan7171]

just to make you all envy :p



if I told you that Foxconn's 790GX mobo don't even recognize CPU properly with latest BIOS but overclock it like crazy, I think you would want to go for this awesome blacky

sweet niblets! thats some good hinting right there.......on a side note that heatspreader sure does have some weird high edges for the heatsink to deal with......looks like it needs to be lapped

(in a deep southern accent) why, you little....****

where were you hiding that? between your cheeks?

which cheeks?

Didn't the Aussie place that had them listed briefly say the 16th December? Theres a uk place that has them listed now, £231 for the 940, £190 or so for the 920, and say the 15th December also, so maybe its out earlier than expected? It does make sense its "that" soon as the latest price drop was very very soon after the last price drop and looks to be clearing out the 9950's(which dropped to £130 in the uk yesterday from £150ish) leaving the field clear for a couple new phenom's to enter the market.

Almost certainly going to get one on release as long as prices aren't utterly ridiculous in the UK, which at £231 isn't exactly cheap compared to $300.

How are phenom's doing with fsb overclocking, I had a 9600BE ages ago and other than the board being a pain fsb overclocking was limited to say the list, are you screwing yourself by buying a non unlocked multi chip? I think what AMD really needs and can increase enthusiast sales a lot(if fsb clocking is an issue) is a lower end multi unlocked chip, or hell, make the whole range unlocked and maybe just make the black edition ultra binned chips or something if they must. Having to pay £230 to get a great clock with unlocked multi doesn't sound half as nice as paying £100 for a lower quad and overclocking the bejesus out of it.

fsb wise I got mine to about 275-280mhz on my MSI DKA790GX but it hardly made a difference and Im talking going from 200mhz to 280mhz
made a difference of a few milliseconds less in spi 1M where as moving the nb frequency and the HT link speed from 2000mhz to 2400mhz gave a difference of 1-2 seconds less in spi 1M.

I just wanted to make a correction in my above post about fsb. After going through my notes my increase in performance in spi 1m going from 2000mhz to 2400mhz was actually .300 less not 1-2 seconds. I got a decrease of 1-2 seconds from a combination of fsb/nb frequency/ht link/timings and AOD green button. These all contributed to a 1-2 second decrese in spi 1M.....biggest factor in it though was the actual cpu speed. but thats for spi 1M now in Sandra memory Bandwidth going from 2000mhz to 2400mhz my score went from

INT 11,796 to 12,981
Float 11,809 to 13,014

about 1,200mb increase from a 400mhz increase in HT and NB.