Asus M3A79-T Deluxe

[kazgirl]

Hi,

I think the best thing to do to rule out voltage and your OC as a problem is to take it back to stock settings and check temps again for a while ( both Idle and Load).

If your temps are still too high at stock clocks and voltage, then it shows its a HSF issue, either the HSF contact (TIM/Mounting) or Fan issues (inadequate rpm etc)

If the temps are fine at stock then it shows that the OC and Voltage is the issue, and you need to re-think your 24/7 OC settings a bit....

Best thing to do is to just gradually increase the clock speed at stock settings, until you can't boot, keeping an eye on temps of course at each increment. Then once you reach max Clocks at stock voltage, and provided temps are still within your comfort zone, increase the Voltage gradually until the OC is stable, again keeping temps within your preferred range.

The max temps for the Phenom 9950, as per AMD, are 61C for 125W 9950 and 63C for 140W 9950, so ideally you want to keep your Load temp below this figure, the lower the better of course... though its to be expected that AMD will have erred on the side of caution when detaling the max temp as well.

My own preference is to aim for a load temp of about 10C lower than the max temp of 61C/63C so a load temp of approx 51C-53C for 24/7 OC.

With a benhcmarking profile with a higher OC and voltage for short periods only (if possible) at the moment my max OC Load temps are below the 51C-53C range anyway, so I just run at this 24/7 (allbeit with C'n'Q enabled so its only rarely using max voltage anyway - i.e. under Load)

[soundood]

so did you get your board from Offike in the end Kazgirl?

[kazgirl]

No....!!!! only just this week I got a refund from them, and that took long enough.
Im waiting for the refund cheque to clear before getting from elsewhere now. Dabs still have no stock either, which is a shame as they have the best price listing, just nothing to sell.

I'm currently looking at a few other places who have stock available, who I have used before with good service, I'll never ever use Offike again, and would advise anyone else to never use them either.

The whole thing was a nightmare with them....!!!!

But hey live and learn, I gave Offike a chance, and they failed, so they lost a customer in me.... their loss, as if a seller is good then I tend to use them repeatedly, ebuyer have benefited from over £1500 of my custom over the last 12 months alone, they have proven to be very reliable, but they havn't got a listing for the M3A79-T or else I'd use them.

Morecomputers.co.uk are someone else I've used before with no problems and they have now got stock in.

Also OcUK.co.uk who I have also used before, but had some minor problems with them, but which eventually they did put right, so I'll not hold it against them, though I've heard of people having problems with them, I've not yet had a major problem with them, but they wouldn't be my first choice, as their prices are a bit higher than average as well.

I've never used Scan.co.uk but have heard good things about them, so may give them a try as well, all depends right now, if Dabs get stock in over the weekend (unlikey but you never know) then I will be ordering from them, otherwise it'll be Scan (with the next best price, but untried before), or otherwise it'll be Morecomputers, who have the next best price, lastly is Lambdatek, another one I;ve never used before, which is why they are bottom of the list at the moment.

As soon as Offike's refund cheque clears, my order will be placed with one of the above, so (fingers crossed) this time next week, I will finally have my M3A79-T.........!!!!!

[Gener_AL (UK)]

I do reccomend scan kazgirl, If you are local even more so. They do have a good attitude there, and i have happily been using them since i can remember.
One of the best etailors i have come Across.

Regarding the M3A79 -T Deluxe i hope to be picking one up from scan prety soon myself All depends if i can sell the spare systems & parts i have here.

[kazgirl]

Hi Gener AL

Thanks for the info about Scan, I've also been checking the forums out, and the Hexus free delivery offer, its a really good incentive as well. Won't be in time for this order, but I hope to get the 20+ posts needed to qualify for future orders.

I like ebuyer as they accept Paypal as well, which is really useful for me, it makes things a lot easier, when selling parts after upgrading to use the ebay generated money to pay for new stuff via paypal, rather than have to wait for paypal to sned funds to the bank etc..... a couple of months ago ebuyer withdrew Paypal as a method of paying, and I stopped using them, they've since re-instated Payapl however, and I've started using them again. They have never once failed, and next day delivery is great as well (at a cost of course).

I think if Dabs don't get stock in over the weekend or by Tues at the latest, then I'll defintiely be giving Scan a try.

yup it`s fixed, i booted from a sata LG

Hi EXxx

Thanks for the feedback on this, its good to know that its been fixed, as otherwise I would need to order a new IDE DVD-RW, as the current IDE DVD-RW I have will have to be paired to the M3A32-MVP, with my current SATA DVD-RW going with the M2N32-SLI.

THe M2N32-SLI will be out of action for a while though, until I get a new HDD and OS though, so I'll be able to use the SATA DVD-RW on the M3A79-T for the time being now that I know that this problem has been fixed with SB750, and then eventually order a new SATA DVD-RW for the M2N32-SLI when I get a HDD and OS for it.

It means I can get a PCI Wi-Fi card for the M3A32-MVP now as I intend to stream video to it as a HTPC, the M2N32-SLI I have as my HTPC at the moment has built in wi-fi, but I want to get the M3A32-MVP into that PC asap, to get the AC Freezer Extreme to work better with the 9850BE, so if I can get the wi-fi card same time as I order the mobo wihtout having to add an IDE DVD-RW to the cost, it will help.

All useful info guys.....THANKS..!!

[HondaGuy]

There is a new BIOS out for that board on the ASUS site...... BIOS 602
M3A79-T Deluxe 0602 BIOS
Fixed HDD device Boot priority will refresh when change HDD device.
Fixed system can not reset after recovery BIOS from USB device.
Update ExpressGate version to 1.3.12.1

[Oliverda]

There is a new BIOS out for that board on the ASUS site...... BIOS 602
M3A79-T Deluxe 0602 BIOS
Fixed HDD device Boot priority will refresh when change HDD device.
Fixed system can not reset after recovery BIOS from USB device.
Update ExpressGate version to 1.3.12.1

Good news! I'll test it on the weekend.

[XRogerX]

ok i did alot of messing with my system and i have it stable without no heat problem , i put everything back to stock seeting in the bios

Ram was @ ddr2 800 went in bios and put it to 1067 and adjust the timming to 5-5-5-15 T2 , Ram now running at DDR2 1066

Stock temps were 35c idle and 40c load

turned off CPU Tweak BEFORE i turned off CPU Tweak idle temp were 35c when i turned it off temp went to 31c

Also i enable CnQ

At 2.8 idle was 31c and load was 41c with stock volts

At 3.0 idle temp was 31c started to check for stableness and it fail this was also at stock Volt

2ND try @ 3.0 idle temps were 31c to 32c and load was 44c and this is with 1.30 Volts

3rd Try @ 3.0 idle temps were 32c to 33c and load was 48c and this is with 1.32 Volts

then i went to try for higher clock to 3.1 idle temp was 33c but stableness fail ,Test stopped

thought it could be caused by not enough Volts so i upped it to 1.35

at this time the idle temps are looking great there were at 33c to 34c but when i try to stress it at these volts the load temp went to 52c

so i think i high my limit at 3.0 with idle temps 32c to 33c and load temps are 48c with the volts @ 1.32

is there anything that i missed remind you i didnt touch nothing else like the NB or anything

[soundood]

i knew things would come stuck at Offike kazgirl, they are not what they seem, i think its one guy in a basement lol with 5 mobo's and a Socket A heatsink.

you have mentioned scan.co.uk, they are sound as a pound, great lot there and great CS.

another place you could get it is Microdirect.co.uk, funny site this, totaly legit, but allways seem to pull stock out the bag from nowhere, 5 days before all the big names, good contacts i suppose,

they got the board in stock now,
http://www.microdirect.co.uk/Product...ource=googleps

i was going to pick it up, but decided to hold out for the Nvidia ACC 'vapourware' boards, to see if they appear.

got myself another GTX 260 and two XSPC waterblocks for them, dont come till monday, darn....cant wait to fit em

[Jazzman]

......is there anything that i missed remind you i didnt touch nothing else like the NB or anything

Disable CnQ; set ACC +4 for all cores; increase NB vid to 2.6. You should be able to get 3.1 (207 * 15) at 1.35 cpu vid. I am at 208 * 15.5 or 3224mhz. My cpu vid is 1.38 and ACC is +4+2+2+4 But I am under water. 3.1 should still be pretty cool on air.

Have fun!

[XRogerX]

Disable CnQ; set ACC +4 for all cores; increase NB vid to 2.6. You should be able to get 3.1 (207 * 15) at 1.35 cpu vid. I am at 208 * 15.5 or 3224mhz. My cpu vid is 1.38 and ACC is +4+2+2+4 But I am under water. 3.1 should still be pretty cool on air.

Have fun!

Ok Jazzman i did what you suggested and i try out AOD to check for stableness and the PC reboots or Locks up

[Daveburt714]

XRogerX: Just curious why you don't use AOD for your overclocking?

I've found it best to find a good STABLE setting for BIOS and then
overclock using AOD. If it crashes, your system will still reboot with good settings.

AOD Link: http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_overdrive.aspx?p=1

AOD actually plays quite well with this board.
Personally, I just leave my bios @ 200x15x11x10 (3Ghz CPU/2.2Ghz NB/2Ghz HTlink) 1.375v CPU, 2.1v Mem, 1.325v NBvid.

Here is a SS of my bios settings (from AOD):
CLICKABLE:


When I want to push the OC I just boot normally, go into AOD and load the saved profile (I call it "MaxOC_Profile"). The Save/Load features work just fine as long as your not teetering on the very edge....

Heres a SS of my AOD "MaxOC_Profile":
CLICKABLE:


As for your temps.... I wouldn't worry too much about 52c when your stressing the system. The chip is rated for 60c at least, I'm pretty sure it's actually 70c but don't hold me to that...

Mine does seem to get a little unstable when it goes over 58 so I watch for that as my personal limit, it's still well within AMD's specs.

I had a Zalman 9700 cooler, and while it works quite well I found it to be kind of noisey. There are better and quieter air coolers available the one I'm using now actually dropped my load temps by ~4c.

Here's a link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835233003

Hope this helps a little, and Happy Overclocking!!

EDIT: BTW, my system is very similar to yours, I'll update my sig...

[demonkevy666]

quick question what are the idle temps when over clock ?

oc I need 1.4 and cpu vdda at 2.8 38-40C idle 2.8ghz.

[Daveburt714]

demonkevy666: If your asking me man, it ranges from 33-38c depending on ambient temps. I'm running my OC'd setting right now, and the furnace is running (it's frikken cold outside )....



**EDIT** I've played with the CPU VDDA setting and haven't really seen any benefit yet. It seems to OC just as well on AUTO as it does by raising it.... I've only had this board for a couple weeks though.

[demonkevy666]

demonkevy666: If your asking me man, it ranges from 33-38c depending on ambient temps. I'm running my OC'd setting right now, and the furnace is running (it's frikken cold outside )....



**EDIT** I've played with the CPU VDDA setting and haven't really seen any benefit yet. It seems to OC just as well on AUTO as it does by raising it.... I've only had this board for a couple weeks though.

I'm running ACC at 8% on all cores, I could run 10% and 12% but I get weird BOSD's like this Index miss match :/ an of course running on 64 bit here too.

[Daveburt714]

I'm running ACC at 8% on all cores, I could run 10% and 12% but I get weird BOSD's like this Index miss match :/ an of course running on 64 bit here too.

TBH, it's probably just your 9850 man. My 9850 had a hard time hitting 2.8 stable on my MSI K9A2, but this 9950 would run 3.0 rock solid on that board.

One thing I've noticed about ACC settings is that you can't get them too far out of wack from each other. For example 4/2/4/2 will work just fine, but 6/2/6/2 will cause alot of problems (at least from my experience) you need to keep them within a step of each other....

I read that Macci had a theory about ACC settings that goes something like this:
-2 ACC = Stock V's (1.30)
0 ACC = 1.3125
+2 ACC = 1.325
+4 ACC = 1.3375
Etc....

He's a VERY bright guy and there does seem to be some usefullness to this idea, but from my experience it works better when I apply the rule in jumps of +.025v rather than +.0125v... It may very well have alot to do with your individual chip, but it does seem to be a good rule of thumb..

[XRogerX]

XRogerX: Just curious why you don't use AOD for your overclocking?

I've found it best to find a good STABLE setting for BIOS and then
overclock using AOD. If it crashes, your system will still reboot with good settings.

AOD Link: http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_overdrive.aspx?p=1

AOD actually plays quite well with this board.
Personally, I just leave my bios @ 200x15x11x10 (3Ghz CPU/2.2Ghz NB/2Ghz HTlink) 1.375v CPU, 2.1v Mem, 1.325v NBvid.

Here is a SS of my bios settings (from AOD):
CLICKABLE:


When I want to push the OC I just boot normally, go into AOD and load the saved profile (I call it "MaxOC_Profile"). The Save/Load features work just fine as long as your not teetering on the very edge....

Heres a SS of my AOD "MaxOC_Profile":
CLICKABLE:


As for your temps.... I wouldn't worry too much about 52c when your stressing the system. The chip is rated for 60c at least, I'm pretty sure it's actually 70c but don't hold me to that...

Mine does seem to get a little unstable when it goes over 58 so I watch for that as my personal limit, it's still well within AMD's specs.

I had a Zalman 9700 cooler, and while it works quite well I found it to be kind of noisey. There are better and quieter air coolers available the one I'm using now actually dropped my load temps by ~4c.

Here's a link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835233003

Hope this helps a little, and Happy Overclocking!!

EDIT: BTW, my system is very similar to yours, I'll update my sig...

This is my 1St Quad Core so im still learning i really dont want to blow nothing on this so im alittle worried ,im sry if im asking all kinds of questions i what to get the most out of this but i only got a 650w so i dont know if it can really overclock with what i got, i know i can get to 3.1 but its not stable so i dont know what i could be but them what do i know lol, everyone in this thread know all about this im still learning and asking questions , like this question here i got crossfire but AOD doesnt see no cards installed but Device manager , GPU-Z and CCC sees it ,i dont know maybe im just nerves i know i wasted money on getting this but thats ok cause i will get one of the new CPU's that will be comming out

[kazgirl]

Well I've put my order in with Scan for my M3A79-T, at last...!!!!!

It should be here on Tues according to the order confirmation......fingers crossed that this time after having ordered one from Offike almost 2 months ago, that this time it will arrive as expected......!!!

I have a hospital appointment on Wed though, so won't be able to do much until Thurs, maybe even Fri depending on how my hospital visit go's.

I hope to have it up and running before the weekend though. Going to see if I can get some good OC'ng out of my 9950 then.

I hope I get a at least another 200Mhz out of it, preferably even 400Mhz.

I'm surprised to see the 3.1Ghz - 3.19Ghz limits with you guys though, as I've had 3146Mhz (203 X 15.5) out of my 9950 on my current SB600 M3A32-MVP, so I hope that isn't as much as it will do, and that I gain something from SB750 and ACC, especially after the hassle I've had to get one.

It won't be that big a deal if I don't though, as I needed to get a SB750 mobo anyway ready for the Phenom II aka Deneb. So it'll give me plenty of time to get to know the mobo and all its settings before Jan (or more likely Feb in the UK) when the Phenom II's are available. But it would be nice to get a really good OC for a change.

Its been a while since I been at 3.5Ghz, not since I swapped to Phenom on my water-cooled PC and put my X2 6400+BE back with its stock HSF.

I had 3.45Ghz with a X2 6000+
3.5Ghz with the X2 6400+BE
Then dropped down to 2.2Ghz with my first Phenom, the horrible B2 stepping 9500 back last Oct.
Then up to 2.9Ghz with my 2nd Phenom, the 9850BE
Then up to 3.1Ghz with my current 9950BE.

Yet still 400Mhz short of the 3.5Ghz I saw with my X2 6400+BE and even 350Mhz short of the X2 6000+ I had.

It would be really nice if I could get back up to the 3.45Ghz -3.5Ghz with Phenom, before finally swapping to Phenom II, it would be even better if it could surpass the X2 OC's and got up to 3.6Ghz,...... something I was never quite able to get the X2's to do 100% stable, I did once manage to boot at 3.6Ghz but almost immediately froze up on trying to launch any app, so had to drop back down.

I had really high hopes for Phenom and Spider platform, pre-launch of course, and even though it was really good to finally get Phenom to 3.0Ghz+ with the 9950BE, I'd like even better to get to where I've seen others get, and hit the 3.4 - 3.5Ghz mark....!!!

Guess I'm going to have to go back through the entire thread again now, and pay attention to any little glitches that have been causing issues, in readiness for its arrival...

That and having a good sort of all my folders to see what I need to keep and what I can get rid of before wiping everything ready for a nice clean install of Vista.

Its going to be a busy week...LOL...!!!

[RiverRicer]

Well I've put my order in with Scan for my M3A79-T, at last...!!!!!

Good grief, kaz.........the boards going to be obsolete by the time you get your hands on one! Sorry you've had such a time trying to upgrade.

[Chicken Patty]

GOod thing about the M3A79-T is that if i'm not mistaken it will support AM3 through a BIOS update. Thats what I heard, don't know if its confirmed yet. Plus, the board is badass!!

[XRogerX]

Well i know this isnt the place to say this but I7 just released and it goes up to 3.2, but where the AMDS our turn i hope

[RASTAVIPER]

Hey guys.
Any other program except AOD for raising the fsb in phenom's??

[XRogerX]

ok i have a question about CF on this board , do i put in it pcie1 and 2 or 1and3?

Iwas told to put it in 1and2 im asking here cause you all know what you doing with this board

Maybe this is why AOD isnt seeing the video cards hmmmmmm

[Nedjo]

ok i have a question about CF on this board , do i put in it pcie1 and 2 or 1and3?

Iwas told to put it in 1and2 im asking here cause you all know what you doing with this board

Maybe this is why AOD isnt seeing the video cards hmmmmmm

use same colored PEGs!

[XRogerX]

use same colored PEGs!

wow i did something right sweet

Thanks Nedjo