Deneb vs Agena..feel Free to "speculate"

[Macadamia]

What's so laughable about it Chad?

That source is me. Here is the the email that I was sent as proof.

Not sure if anyone got back to you on this mate as I was out of the office. Our rep has said mid-January for them. Prices are expected to be much higher than the 9950.



Regards,

I then replied to him that Deneb is expected before the end of the year and got this reply.
Came from our AMD rep itself mate.

Now Chad I gave you a chance in the other thread that Fugger himself had to come and ban you from, then you go behind my back and start posting moronic crap like this
What's your problem little boy...?

You should look at the numerous troll accounts he made- until I think somebody put an IP ban in place.

[Aussie FX]

You should look at the numerous troll accounts he made- until I think somebody put an IP ban in place.

Haha, evey site needs a Ghost.

So our Chad Boga would be "someguy" and "mundus" would he?

Who said that we don't need capital punishment?

[Chad Boga]

Haha, evey site needs a Ghost.

So our Chad Boga would be "someguy" and "mundus" would he?

Who said that we don't need capital punishment?

One doesn't need an account to witness the clueless, so no.

[EvilBlitz]

roofsniper, Nehalem IS coming out for server chips, 2nd Half of 09. With intel, and considering Nehalem is already shipping for desktop, that will mean early 2nd half, and they could easily pull it in if Shanghai is quite good.
AMD has about 2quarters advantage in the server market before they will face some extremely stiff competition(not that Intel is already the better choice in most regards for 1P and 2P servers, AMD still wins 4P though)

Also, of course Deneb/Shanghai will be more expensive than the older ones. Why they hell would they sell it cheaper than their older slower CPUs? That would completely osbourne massive amounts of stock and be an extemely stupid move.

As for pricing....
669 for top end X58 mobo here(450 for cheapest), and top end FX board is 393 , 9950 here is 381. So while the Corei7 is much more expensive it isnt even close to being a X58 board = 790FX+CPU+Ram.
Remember prices vary dramatically across countries depending on cross currency conversions and which cpu/gfx/mobo maker dominates a local market. Eg Nvidia is always way cheaper in NZ. The ATI cards just don't get the volume to compete on price or be cheaper than the equivalent Nvidia card like in the US.

Personally while I think Chad also has been a little harsh sometimes, some of you have also been just as immature. People could be much more polite and nicer here. I also only buy AMD ever, so don't think im some intel bigot.

[m411b]

roofsniper, Nehalem IS coming out for server chips, 2nd Half of 09. With intel, and considering Nehalem is already shipping for desktop, that will mean early 2nd half, and they could easily pull it in if Shanghai is quite good.
AMD has about 2quarters advantage in the server market before they will face some extremely stiff competition(not that Intel is already the better choice in most regards for 1P and 2P servers, AMD still wins 4P though)

Also, of course Deneb/Shanghai will be more expensive than the older ones. Why they hell would they sell it cheaper than their older slower CPUs? That would completely osbourne massive amounts of stock and be an extemely stupid move.

As for pricing....
669 for top end X58 mobo here(450 for cheapest), and top end FX board is 393 , 9950 here is 381. So while the Corei7 is much more expensive it isnt even close to being a X58 board = 790FX+CPU+Ram.
Remember prices vary dramatically across countries depending on cross currency conversions and which cpu/gfx/mobo maker dominates a local market. Eg Nvidia is always way cheaper in NZ. The ATI cards just don't get the volume to compete on price or be cheaper than the equivalent Nvidia card like in the US.

Personally while I think Chad also has been a little harsh sometimes, some of you have also been just as immature. People could be much more polite and nicer here. I also only buy AMD ever, so don't think im some intel bigot.

Well actually, this JetWay HA04-Extreme($93.75), AMD Phenom 9950 ($184.99), and this G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2 800($34.99) = $313.37 USD = $486.9 AUD. Thats $36 AUD more than your cheapest X58 board right? So you are telling me that you can get a Nehalem chip and DDR3 RAM for $36 AUD?

[Gener_AL (UK)]

As for pricing....
669 for top end X58 mobo here(450 for cheapest), and top end FX board is 393 , 9950 here is 381. So while the Corei7 is much more expensive it isnt even close to being a X58 board = 790FX+CPU+Ram.

Oh really ? Regarding UK prices.

DFI Lanparty DK 790FX-M2RS, AMD 790FX, S AM2+, PCI-E 2.0(x16), DDR2 667/800, SATA II, SATA RAID, ATX £69.99 £82.24

2GB (2x1GB) Corsair TwinX XMS2, DDR2 PC2-6400 (800), 240 Pins, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 5-5-5-18 £19.89 £23.37

AMD Phenom™ 9950 Black Edition, Socket AM2+, 2.6GHz, 4MB Cache, 125W, Retail £119.97 £140.96

total i make that around £247 (for standard 2gb ram system)


Now a Few X58

Asus P6T Deluxe Intel X58 (Socket 1366) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard
Core i7 1366 Support, 6400MHz FSB, Triple Channel DDR3 Support, 6x SATA, RAID, 8x USB2.0, FireWire, Dual Gigabit LAN.

£239.99
(£281.99)

Intel SmackOver Intel X58 (Socket 1366) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard
Core i7 1366 Support, 6400MHz FSB, Triple Channel DDR3 Support, 6x SATA, RAID, Dual Gigabit LAN.

Pre-order
£199.99
(£234.99)

MSI Eclipse SLI Intel X58 (Socket 1366) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard Core i7 1366 Support, 6400MHz FSB, Triple Channel DDR3 Support, 6x SATA, RAID, Dual Gigabit LAN.

Asus P6T Deluxe "OC Palm Edition" Intel X58 (Socket 1366) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard
Core i7 1366 Support, 6400MHz FSB, Triple Channel DDR3 Support, 6x SATA, RAID, Dual Gigabit LAN, Supplied with OC Palm.

£269.99
(£317.24)

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Is that enough proof ?

[Rammsteiner]

Oh really ? Regarding UK prices.

DFI Lanparty DK 790FX-M2RS, AMD 790FX, S AM2+, PCI-E 2.0(x16), DDR2 667/800, SATA II, SATA RAID, ATX £69.99 £82.24

2GB (2x1GB) Corsair TwinX XMS2, DDR2 PC2-6400 (800), 240 Pins, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 5-5-5-18 £19.89 £23.37

AMD Phenom™ 9950 Black Edition, Socket AM2+, 2.6GHz, 4MB Cache, 125W, Retail £119.97 £140.96

total i make that around £247 (for standard 2gb ram system)


Now a Few X58

Asus P6T Deluxe Intel X58 (Socket 1366) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard
Core i7 1366 Support, 6400MHz FSB, Triple Channel DDR3 Support, 6x SATA, RAID, 8x USB2.0, FireWire, Dual Gigabit LAN.

£239.99
(£281.99)

Intel SmackOver Intel X58 (Socket 1366) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard
Core i7 1366 Support, 6400MHz FSB, Triple Channel DDR3 Support, 6x SATA, RAID, Dual Gigabit LAN.

Pre-order
£199.99
(£234.99)

MSI Eclipse SLI Intel X58 (Socket 1366) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard Core i7 1366 Support, 6400MHz FSB, Triple Channel DDR3 Support, 6x SATA, RAID, Dual Gigabit LAN.

Asus P6T Deluxe "OC Palm Edition" Intel X58 (Socket 1366) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard
Core i7 1366 Support, 6400MHz FSB, Triple Channel DDR3 Support, 6x SATA, RAID, Dual Gigabit LAN, Supplied with OC Palm.

£269.99
(£317.24)

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Is that enough proof ?

Oh silly you

Doesnt your might X58 platform need some RAM maybe? Just curious Also, that CPU is overpriced. We pay that amount in Euro's for the 125W version of it. Also Corsair RAM ain't the RAM for a cheap system generally. SO I think it ain't a lot of very good proof.

X58 platform is a lot more expensive, especially when you start geting enthusiast parts (for both AM2 and 1366).

Asus Rampage II Extreme, 340 Euro
Core i7 920, 282 Euro
3x 2GB DDR1600 tCL8, all over the board ~300 Euro

DFI Lanparty DK 790FXB-M2RS, 120 Euro
Phenom X4 9950BE 125W, 150 Euro
4x 1GB DDR1066+ Transcend Axe RAM, 220 Euro (although not available anymore, but this was one of the very best DDR2 kits you could wish for).

Now we could pick 4GB of cheap RAM, and actually you will land just before the 340 Euro of that Asus board, other wise it's unsignificantly close. I ordered it anyway, but dont come and say X58 'ain't that expensive', because it actually is. Of course we can go sneak for cheapest X58 board, but you'll lose then because there are a lot of cheap good 790FX/GX/SB750 boards as well, for as low as 80 Euro I think I saw it one month ago.

[Chad Boga]

You should look at the numerous troll accounts he made- until I think somebody put an IP ban in place.

What on earth are you talking about?