Quote Originally Posted by Chad Boga View Post
What an atrocious understanding you have of discussion forums and debates in general.

Due to your AMD Fanaticism you are demanding that no scrutiny ever be applied to outrageously optimistic predictions about AMD products, that this forum should only be about praising AMD.



Well I maintain that is an unrealistic expectation for across the board performance increases.


Claiming 15 to 20% is over the top in my view.


Everytime a company shrinks and adds cache they will do some tidy up of the existing design and it never results in major improvements, so I am sticking with my description of it just being a shrink and cache addage.

BTW, If I am wrong about how much Deneb improves, I will come on here and readily concede that.
ok so you believe that 15-20% is excessive. amd has stated that thats what it is and i have spoken with amd employees about it and they say the same. because you have no proof that 15-20% is excessive then i don't believe you can say that others are wrong when they claim this. we all accept that you believe that the ipc will not increase by 15-20% but what we don't understand is how u can say we are all wrong without having any proof stating otherwise when everyone else here is getting all their numbers and performance predictions from facts and what amd has stated.