Quote Originally Posted by soundood View Post
up util this point, i was sort of going along with what you were saying, this statement however is nonsense.
I am talking about IPC, I guess I should have been clearer, but I would hardly be shocked if a 3 Ghz Deneb isn't 20% faster than a 2.6 Ghz Phenom.

here is the math,

2.8 gig = current max offiical clock from AMD
Isn't 2.6Ghz the fastest available stock speed?

it isnt that much of a leap of Imagination to envisage that the new chips will hit 4 gig? is it?
I suspect hitting 4 gig will be notably less common than it is for Penryn Quads.

and as far as i am concerned a die shrink = new manufactueing process = new architecture, even if this resembles the same architecture as before.
That is quite a perverse interpretation you got going for yourself there.

Bulldozer will be a new architecture, not Deneb.