Quote Originally Posted by Chad Boga View Post
AMD's credibility is in tatters in respect of at least their CPU's, so I have relatively low expectations for them, hopefully they can restore my faith, I'm just not counting on it.

Sure Deneb will be better than Phenom, but I very much doubt by the 15 to 20% margins many are claiming, except in niche applications.
up util this point, i was sort of going along with what you were saying, this statement however is nonsense.

here is the math,

2.8 gig = current max offiical clock from AMD
3.0 - 3.2 gig = estimated speed from Deneb

= 15% to 20% increase.

considering most Phenoms will hit 3 gig now, this doesnt seem to 'out there' and some of the lucky guys like Hondaman and charged, are hitting 3.5 gig on water with current Phenoms, then.....

it isnt that much of a leap of Imagination to envisage that the new chips will hit 4 gig? is it?

for me a quad core AMD chip at 4 gig is something to shout about.

and as far as i am concerned a die shrink = new manufactueing process = new architecture, even if this resembles the same architecture as before.

its a differant chip, and no amount of 'its rubbish because' will persaude me otherwise, maybe they will listen to you over at the Intel Forums.

not here