ASUS P5Q3 Deluxe discussion

[Lukee]

Ok here are bios pics as promised.

[racergr]

racergr, did you try Super Pi Mod @ 32M?

No, but it would crash

My 400W CM PSU can't handle my Q6600 @ >1.65V, the PC shuts down So.. I can't overclock my Q6600 @ >4500MHz..

[modderwannabe]

yeah it would crash on me too lukee ... now i'm back to 430x10 fsb strap to 400mhz ... i'll post my bios up when i have the chance
as for other comments on oc with this board, i do not have much experience in oc'ing and that is why i'm here to learn some stuff, as for the settings, it's what i read from the forums from various sites ... nope i havent tried super pi (what is that actually and where can i DL it) but so far my system is pretty stable with my current settings, no blue screens, no auto restarts, works normally etc .... i'll try to load crysis later tonight and see what happens ....

racergr, get a new psu hehehehe ... mine is 850w but acts up weird but will keep on trying

[kaskuli]

I posted this somewhere else, you may not have seen it as it's part of RAM benchmarking log.

[MarkJohnson]

I just ordered this board with some G. Skill DDR3 1600 cl7 sticks.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231167

Now I ordered these sticks as a reviewer said they worked flawlessly with this board, but then I've been reading the forums here and see people have had problems with this memory working. maybe a newer bios has been released for the reviewer to get them working "flawlessly".

Can anyone confirm these sticks work? or can anyone recommend known good sticks. I'd hate to return this board. I bought it because I own a P5Q Deluxe and love it, especially the express gate. I use it all the time except when gaming of course.

Thanks for any help.
-=Mark=-

[Crazy Inside]

where i can get the link of bios 1306?!

i have some problems with the last one 1406 :S

Regards

[VRSpy]

at the moment Asus making fun of us, buy Asus P5Q3 and yet we having trouble with the memory....bad marketing or I should say bad image.
Will sell away once I get hold of better mobo.
EP45T extreme looks good.

[Lukee]

I just ordered this board with some G. Skill DDR3 1600 cl7 sticks.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231167

Now I ordered these sticks as a reviewer said they worked flawlessly with this board, but then I've been reading the forums here and see people have had problems with this memory working. maybe a newer bios has been released for the reviewer to get them working "flawlessly".

Can anyone confirm these sticks work? or can anyone recommend known good sticks. I'd hate to return this board. I bought it because I own a P5Q Deluxe and love it, especially the express gate. I use it all the time except when gaming of course.

Thanks for any help.
-=Mark=-

Mark, I've used these sticks with 1406 and it works well. This has been my experience. Maybe someone else may have problems with it, but I also bought it because someone was using it and recommended it. The only gripe I have is that I can't get it to 1900+ MHz, but I don't think it is a memory issue, I think the issue is still with the board. Hopefully they will fix that in a bios update.

[kaskuli]

I just ordered this board with some G. Skill DDR3 1600 cl7 sticks.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231167

Now I ordered these sticks as a reviewer said they worked flawlessly with this board, but then I've been reading the forums here and see people have had problems with this memory working. maybe a newer bios has been released for the reviewer to get them working "flawlessly".

Can anyone confirm these sticks work? or can anyone recommend known good sticks. I'd hate to return this board. I bought it because I own a P5Q Deluxe and love it, especially the express gate. I use it all the time except when gaming of course.

Thanks for any help.
-=Mark=-

A poor craftsman will always blame his tools. This is Asus we're talking about here. I'll be glad to help you stabilize, it's a fine piece of equipment - unheard-of quality at this price point.

[VRSpy]

A poor craftsman will always blame his tools. This is Asus we're talking about here. I'll be glad to help you stabilize, it's a fine piece of equipment - unheard-of quality at this price point.

Have you tried putting 4 sticks of hyperX kingston 14400/1800Mhz ram.
Can't even run at 1800Mhz even up to 9-9-9-30 settings and 2.2vdimm.
It can only do 1600Mhz at 9-9-9-25....no way it gonna past 1650Mhz at 2.2vdimm.
Show me your good skills I would like to see it
Don't just talk, talk is cheap. Everyone here facing the same issues, think !

[kaskuli]

Those are your needs. Perhaps investigate before you purchase and find the product that best suits its intended purpose?

4 sticks? No comment...

[Lukee]

Have you tried putting 4 sticks of hyperX kingston 14400/1800Mhz ram.
Can't even run at 1800Mhz even up to 9-9-9-30 settings and 2.2vdimm.
It can only do 1600Mhz at 9-9-9-25....no way it gonna past 1650Mhz at 2.2vdimm.
Show me your good skills I would like to see it
Don't just talk, talk is cheap. Everyone here facing the same issues, think !

I also have 4 x 2 GB Kingston HyperX 1600 MHz RAM and I have not been able to get that to run on this MB or an EVGA 790i Ultra SLI MB.

Tonight, I'll play around with the ram that I have and put 8 GB of the Gskill with my E8600 and 8 GB of the HyperX with the Q9550. Both are using this MB.

I'll let you know what I come up with.

When using all 4 memory slots, I have to increase the NB voltage, right?

[VRSpy]

I also have 4 x 2 GB Kingston HyperX 1600 MHz RAM and I have not been able to get that to run on this MB or an EVGA 790i Ultra SLI MB.

Tonight, I'll play around with the ram that I have and put 8 GB of the Gskill with my E8600 and 8 GB of the HyperX with the Q9550. Both are using this MB.

I'll let you know what I come up with.

When using all 4 memory slots, I have to increase the NB voltage, right?

Vnb probably around 1.4-1.5v, Vdimm increase by 0.2 from 1.9V ( for my case even at 2.2Vdimm still unable to boot )
Can test from there and lower if it is stable. Doubt it can do, tested mine can do only at 1600mhz 9-9-9-25 at 2.0Vdimm with 4 sticks..no higher

[Lukee]

Vnb probably around 1.4-1.5v, Vdimm increase by 0.2 from 1.9V ( for my case even at 2.2Vdimm still unable to boot )
Can test from there and lower if it is stable. Doubt it can do, tested mine can do only at 1600mhz 9-9-9-25 at 2.0Vdimm with 4 sticks..no higher

Which memory do you have?

[Lukee]

Well, I tried 4 sticks of Gskill and I have only been able to run it at 9-9-9-24.

Everest results are worse. Latency went from 49ns to 62 ns Read went from 10800 to 9117.

[VRSpy]

Well, I tried 4 sticks of Gskill and I have only been able to run it at 9-9-9-24.

Everest results are worse. Latency went from 49ns to 62 ns Read went from 10800 to 9117.

I've only Kingston HyperX 14400 4x1 Gb. (D9GTR)
Glad to hear that but at what speed and Vdimm to run at 9-9-9-24. 1600Mhz?

Yah, probably running 2 sticks for now until Asus comes out with better memory bios.

[Lukee]

I've only Kingston HyperX 14400 4x1 Gb. (D9GTR)
Glad to hear that but at what speed and Vdimm to run at 9-9-9-24. 1600Mhz?

Yah, probably running 2 sticks for now until Asus comes out with better memory bios.

No 9-9-9-24 @ 1333 MHz for the Gskill. The timings for that is 7-7-7-18 @1600 MHz. When you use 4 sticks, is it normal to have to loosen them to 9-9-9-24?

I tried 1600 and got BSD when trying to boot into windows. I may be able to tweak it a bit, but I was trying to get my system working since I wanted to play some Warhammer.

It was strange though, I put in the 4 sticks and my bios became corrupt. I had to flash to 1406 again.

[Amurtigress]

Have you tried putting 4 sticks of hyperX kingston 14400/1800Mhz ram.
Can't even run at 1800Mhz even up to 9-9-9-30 settings and 2.2vdimm.
It can only do 1600Mhz at 9-9-9-25....no way it gonna past 1650Mhz at 2.2vdimm.
Show me your good skills I would like to see it
Don't just talk, talk is cheap. Everyone here facing the same issues, think !

Oh folks, please. It is not possible, repeat: NOT POSSIBLE to run two pairs of DDR3 modules at their nominal speed and latencies just as if they were two. Because they pose a higher capacitive load to the northbridge's line drivers. This would only work of the maker of the modules would RATE them for a certain speed at four modules. But whatever they do, the ratings they sell them for is only for ONE pair. Period. Game over, basta. Physical limitations always apply, it's simply a law of physics. They simply sell them for the higher possible rating, which is way better marketing. 1600 or even 2000 sounds a lot better than 1333, right?! That's why you BOUGHT them after all.

My 4x1 GB Corsair DDR3-1600 sticks work well, but only at 1380. Rough estimation: Two pairs of modules would only work right at the next lower clock level. Ex. 1600s at 1333 or a bit more, 1333s roughly at 1066...etc.

Please get some knowledge about electronics. Without it you will never know what you're doing....just as a general plea to overclockers!

[Lukee]

So what you are saying is that only use 4 sticks if you really need the extra memory because they will not run as efficient as 2 sticks.

I'll buy that.

[VRSpy]

Oh folks, please. It is not possible, repeat: NOT POSSIBLE to run two pairs of DDR3 modules at their nominal speed and latencies just as if they were two. Because they pose a higher capacitive load to the northbridge's line drivers. This would only work of the maker of the modules would RATE them for a certain speed at four modules. But whatever they do, the ratings they sell them for is only for ONE pair. Period. Game over, basta. Physical limitations always apply, it's simply a law of physics. They simply sell them for the higher possible rating, which is way better marketing. 1600 or even 2000 sounds a lot better than 1333, right?! That's why you BOUGHT them after all.

My 4x1 GB Corsair DDR3-1600 sticks work well, but only at 1380. Rough estimation: Two pairs of modules would only work right at the next lower clock level. Ex. 1600s at 1333 or a bit more, 1333s roughly at 1066...etc.

Please get some knowledge about electronics. Without it you will never know what you're doing....just as a general plea to overclockers!

Well, partly right and partly wrong. Striker2 Extreme can do with 4 sticks because Nvidia chipsets are known to be good in memory bandwidth.
So, partly right is that the latency you've to sacrifice no matter what you do with 4 sticks and increase in vdimm to run.
DDr2 can do much better with 4 sticks because lower latency, lower bandwdith. As you climb higher, more crucial is to maintain at such speed.
Advancement in technology will improve in due time.
Aeneon did that with 2x2Gb sticks at 1600Mhz 9-9-9-25 with just 1.5Vdimm. And is Germany technology.

[MarkJohnson]

Mark, I've used these sticks with 1406 and it works well. This has been my experience. Maybe someone else may have problems with it, but I also bought it because someone was using it and recommended it. The only gripe I have is that I can't get it to 1900+ MHz, but I don't think it is a memory issue, I think the issue is still with the board. Hopefully they will fix that in a bios update.

ok, I just got the board together and working. I got to 1333 fine, but 1600 won't post and I have to clear the cmos with the jumper. It seems the powerdown and unplug method doesn't work to clear OC settings.

anyway, if you can post your settings for me I'd be forever grateful.

-=Mark=-

[palmtree953]

where i can get the link of bios 1306?!
i have some problems with the last one 1406 :S
Regards

Yeah, it seems to have disappeared from Asus... I have a copy, but it's larger than the 200K attachment limit.

[MarkJohnson]

Still having problems with getting my ram to 1600MHz.

If I enable XMP to set my memory for me, my system locks immediately when saving and exiting the BIOS and I have to hit the power switch to get it to turn off. When re-entering the BIOS the settings seem to have saved, but my system won't boot into windows at all. usually locks as soon as the screen changes to the windows progress bar page that I never get a chance to see.

I lowered my multiplier to x8 and slowly crept up from 333 to 390 and had my vcore to 1.475 and couldn't get it stable. This B3 core runs way too hot to try for higher, I was peaking at 85C but prime was averaging about 81C. My old system ran 1.42v for 8x400 and would peak at around 78c prime95 blend stable 12hrs.

Right now I'm at 3.2GHz 9x333 at 1.4v and 78C peak prime95 8hrs stable(everything is on auto/default). I used to be able to get this at 1.325v before and peak around 70C.

I'm not sure what else to try. I really don't want to return this, but I can't figure out what the issues are.

-=Mark=-

[kaskuli]

There is nothing wrong with the board.

[modderwannabe]

mine works normal so far ... will post my bios settings, as 1 guy said auto settings are you friend and i find it works for me .. currently not home but will snap some pics and hope that i can help out