Retail Q9650 Overclocking Thread

[xguntherc]

wow.. some 2000 Mhz Ram.. thats some fast @$$ Ram. I'd sure love to have some of that. instead of my ghetto 1000 ram that only runs on 933 Stable.. anything else BSOD.. lame huh. haha

So Napalm. what do you think about those 2 PSU choices.??

Also Napalm I have one other question for you. I'm at 4.0 Ghz with 1.304v in CPU-Z but in order to run at 4.1 Ghz Prime Stable I need 1.354v in BIOS and I've only gone up to 1.35v on FSB/VTT.
would I have a better chance at being stable at 4.1 Ghz if I went to 1.4v FSB/VTT.?? and do you really think it's ok to run VTT that high 24/7?

and my last question for you. is what clock are you running for 24/7 on your Q9650??

[Apollonas]

Apolla.. i see you said to get the Silverstone 1200w.. thats huge. I don't think I need all that.

I know, it's really huge, but is the only one I found that you dont need to mod the pots. It gives almost 12.48v at 12v rail which seems to be enough.

Maybe napalm has to suggest something smaller without the need of any adjustments to 12v rail.

[markost]

well i finaly got to os boot the ep45t extreme + 2 x 1GB supertalent 2000ddr3.. wacky/loco combo to say the least

despite the benches.. dq6 is way more extreme than the "extreme"

ill keep trying at 4.8ghz os boot but if i do get it to boot itll be a miracle.. ill get more ddr3 kits before i give up on the extreme

dq6 (1.94vtt bios max) - if you want the highest/max q9650 clocks

extreme (1.80vtt bios max) - 24/7 @ 4.5ghz maybe big maybe @ ~4.8ghz

the idioticity of things huh ?

So Mate !

Is it worth pulling the Striker down for this board or going back to DDR2 and a DQ6. I can swap the EP45T extreme over for a DQ6 from my wholesaler if required seeing I haven't opened it up yet.

It seems that the EP45T Extreme isn't all that great at clocking the CPU and memory together. Is that what you are finding ?

[SrgtGoat]

thanks for the info markost and xguntherc the q9650 it is thinking of the striker II as well does it have the overclock protection like the board i have now so i not pulling the cmos batt every bad try?

on psu's, my antec 850 quattro in hwmon says 12.03v , whats the diff between that and one running at 12.48v if ya only need 12.0v, is it just to close so it can go below 12 easier?

how about this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817379009 or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153043 and is the 80 plus thing that big of a deal? sounds pretty cool, consistant power , lower heat and all, but are they really better? so many don't need to go as high useing a 80 plus?

getting amped about this new sys ! bought a evga gtx 280 today to give it a shot i think it's numbers will be as good if not better then the 3870's x2 i have , so 2 of those on the striker II could be the plan for me.

Markost do you have fans on Both sides of the rad? wow pullin and pushin! that would be some flow!


SG,

[markost]

Markost do you have fans on Both sides of the rad? wow pullin and pushin! that would be some flow!
SG,

Yeah, the idea here is to use low RPM fans so noise is kept to an absolute minimum. Volume of air is what's important and not the speed at which it goes through the rad. I tried a 'normal' type setup with single fans running at high RPM's and there was little or no difference to temps, so the quiet way got the nod.

[Devious]

weird.. your not on insane volts.. at 4000 with 8 multi CPU-Z shows 1.296v.. thats not very high.

Those volts are high for this chip it only needed 1.216 for 11hours small fft @ 4ghz. Volts hasnt never been the problem with this chip, just FSB.


I guess its all down to how high you a prepared to have vtt, especially for 24/7 use. Looking at hicookies quad @ 540 FSB he has a vtt of 1.63

[bigslappy]

wow.. some 2000 Mhz Ram.. thats some fast @$$ Ram. I'd sure love to have some of that. instead of my ghetto 1000 ram that only runs on 933 Stable.. anything else BSOD.. lame huh. haha

So Napalm. what do you think about those 2 PSU choices.??

Also Napalm I have one other question for you. I'm at 4.0 Ghz with 1.304v in CPU-Z but in order to run at 4.1 Ghz Prime Stable I need 1.354v in BIOS and I've only gone up to 1.35v on FSB/VTT.
would I have a better chance at being stable at 4.1 Ghz if I went to 1.4v FSB/VTT.?? and do you really think it's ok to run VTT that high 24/7?

and my last question for you. is what clock are you running for 24/7 on your Q9650??

look at the PC PRW & cooling silencer 750 they are not load at all & have been on sale as of late . it's one of the best single rail psu's out there

[Devious]

Been trying today to get 500FSB stable on my Q9650.

Ive set vtt/Mch higher than i would normally dare (1.7+) but it didnt make any difference. Ive also copied Hicookies settings in this post but it still fails super_pi and blend instantly. My ram is OCZ flex 2 9200 so normally handles 500Mhz with ease.



This chip only needed 1.216vcore for small FFT with 445x9 but fails in a few minutes with 500x8 with 1.3vcore.

time will prove me.. dont worry guys ill surely wont be the only one @ these clocks

No one else so far

[NapalmV5]

we're twin sons of different mothers L O L ! may yours be the best also !

yeh i didnt know i have so many twin brothers from another mothers LOL

wow.. some 2000 Mhz Ram.. thats some fast @$$ Ram. I'd sure love to have some of that. instead of my ghetto 1000 ram that only runs on 933 Stable.. anything else BSOD.. lame huh. haha

So Napalm. what do you think about those 2 PSU choices.??

Also Napalm I have one other question for you. I'm at 4.0 Ghz with 1.304v in CPU-Z but in order to run at 4.1 Ghz Prime Stable I need 1.354v in BIOS and I've only gone up to 1.35v on FSB/VTT.
would I have a better chance at being stable at 4.1 Ghz if I went to 1.4v FSB/VTT.?? and do you really think it's ok to run VTT that high 24/7?

and my last question for you. is what clock are you running for 24/7 on your Q9650??

goodness xguntherc youre a handful

please dont ask me what vtt/vcore/vpll/vi/o/vdimm/vnb is ok for 24/7.. this goes to everyone.. thats up to you guys to decide.. all voltages kill hardware.. whether it takes longer or less time to kill the end result is all the same

i have suggested what psu to go with.. but at least give the odin psu a try

my goal is 4.8ghz 24/7

I know, it's really huge, but is the only one I found that you dont need to mod the pots. It gives almost 12.48v at 12v rail which seems to be enough.

Maybe napalm has to suggest something smaller without the need of any adjustments to 12v rail.

since road-runner posted 4.6ghz on the 750 pcpower&cooling thats what ive been suggesting.. but i can not guarantee since i dont have the psu.. up to you guys to try

So Mate !

Is it worth pulling the Striker down for this board or going back to DDR2 and a DQ6. I can swap the EP45T extreme over for a DQ6 from my wholesaler if required seeing I haven't opened it up yet.

It seems that the EP45T Extreme isn't all that great at clocking the CPU and memory together. Is that what you are finding ?

its worth it if you got ddr3 kits to play with

the 4.5ghz im only able to do @ auto ratio and auto vdimm

that 1000mhz is @ 2.256vdimm.. not much more i can do with..

if i set vdimm manually: no system boot
if i set anything other than the auto ratio: no os boot

some kind of protection or the bios needs lots of fixing.. my hands are tied up at such low vdimm

if id have the corsair dominator 2133 kit id be able to show you guys 4.8ghz/2136ddr3 @ auto ratio/vdimm.. but im not gonna spend 500+$ on the kit but instead ill just ditch the ddr3 extreme and try the ddr2 extreme

Been trying today to get 500FSB stable on my Q9650.

Ive set vtt/Mch higher than i would normally dare (1.7+) but it didnt make any difference. Ive also copied Hicookies settings in this post but it still fails super_pi and blend instantly. My ram is OCZ flex 2 9200 so normally handles 500Mhz with ease.



This chip only needed 1.216vcore for small FFT with 445x9 but fails in a few minutes with 500x8 with 1.3vcore.







No one else so far

but of course no one else.. not one of you got the same parts i do

some think they know better
some always looking for shortcuts
i can go on and on

its like pulling teeth and it is tiring but once one of you get 4.8ghz out of your q9650 my work here is done

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alright.. your voltages are all messed up

ill get back to you with a ss of easytune @ 4.5ghz

[markost]

its worth it if you got ddr3 kits to play with

the 4.5ghz im only able to do @ auto ratio and auto vdimm

that 1000mhz is @ 2.256vdimm.. not much more i can do with..

if i set vdimm manually: no system boot
if i set anything other than the auto ratio: no os boot

some kind of protection or the bios needs lots of fixing.. my hands are tied up at such low vdimm

Sounds like DFI Expert / Striker Extreme all over again. I'll go the DQ6 and play with that. Thanks Mate.

[NapalmV5]

youre welcome m8

the 2.256vdimm is @ 4.8ghz/2136ddr auto ratio/vdimm

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easy breezy 4.5ghz on air @ ep45t extreme..

same voltages @ dq6 except for the vdimm..
vdimm dq6 @ 2.4-2.5 more or less depending on the modules

heres the 4.8ghz on air @ dq6
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=304

for other ep45ers this may or may not work since the mobos are not quite the same

use this as an indication.. if this doesnt work for you..

fiddle around with higher vcore for ex: ~1.5 @ 4.5ghz.. ~1.6 @ 4.8ghz.. your q9650 may need more/less vtt

exactly what voltages work on your setup is for you guys to find out

note1: all voltages set @ bios
note2: no gtl adjusting
note3: cpu/pcie clock drive @ 1000mV.. cpu/mch skew @ 0ps: anything other than 0ps = no system boot

[NapalmV5]

xguntherc this is for you m8.. went back through the pages to get you these so you have a better idea what vcore/vtt it takes

foxconn mars

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...6&postcount=61

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...9&postcount=66

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...9&postcount=67


dfi ut p35

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=129


once i got ep45 dq6 - 1.425vcore/1.6vtt

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=131

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=304

all on air/ifx14 cooling

[markost]

youre welcome m8

Ah what the hell, I'll go the Extreme and see what goes !

[bito]

Could people post their cpu GTL ref's here please?
I know all cpu's may be different, but it may help others as a starting point.
Thanks

[Devious]

youre welcome m8

the 2.256vdimm is @ 4.8ghz/2136ddr auto ratio/vdimm

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easy breezy 4.5ghz on air @ ep45t extreme..

same voltages @ dq6 except for the vdimm..
vdimm dq6 @ 2.4-2.5 more or less depending on the modules

heres the 4.8ghz on air @ dq6
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=304

for other ep45ers this may or may not work since the mobos are not quite the same

use this as an indication.. if this doesnt work for you..

fiddle around with higher vcore for ex: ~1.5 @ 4.5ghz.. ~1.6 @ 4.8ghz.. your q9650 may need more/less vtt

exactly what voltages work on your setup is for you guys to find out

note1: all voltages set @ bios
note2: no gtl adjusting
note3: cpu/pcie clock drive @ 1000mV.. cpu/mch skew @ 0ps: anything other than 0ps = no system boot

Appreciate you posting this again, i did last night try my voltages also as your previously posted easytune screenshot but no luck. I tried many other variations as well including the screenshot i posted above which is similar to Hicookies settings.

I was only trying 500x8 instead of 500x9 (as that wouldnt even boot) so my vcore shouldnt need to be above 1.3v.

I will however try your cpu/pcie clock drive settings tonight and hopefully they will be the key.

[systemviper]

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[NapalmV5]

devious - yes cpu/pcie clock drive must be @ 1000mV

well this the most im able to get out of my supertalent 2000 kit on the extreme

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if you dont see ^ here it is 4.8ghz from systemviper on the ud3

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=436087

goodness gracious a long last.. *sigh* well thanks to systemviper my presence here has come to an end

may your oc always be merry

goodbye guys

[HawaiianSupermn]

crazy fast!

[quattro_]

Could people post their cpu GTL ref's here please?
I know all cpu's may be different, but it may help others as a starting point.
Thanks

good idea i have mine at +70 all ,450x9 cpuv 1.35 LLC disabled, vvt 1.10016

[Devious]

devious - yes cpu/pcie clock drive must be @ 1000mV

ok, ive just tried that and with your all easytune settings and it wont boot at 500x9. It boots at 500x8 just about but as usual it is very unstable and BSOD under any app.

if you dont see ^ here it is 4.8ghz from systemviper on the ud3

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=436087

goodness gracious a long last.. *sigh* well thanks to systemviper my presence here has come to an end

may your oc always be merry

goodbye guys

Yes, i saw, at least now i know its not the motherboard. I think Systemviper is going to post his settings later but i really dont think it will make any difference with my particular chip. Three motherboards on and I think it has a FSB wall Shame as it needs so little vcore, but im sure il pass it on to someone who wants a low power 4ghz and no more and ill either try another or stick with my E8600.


Thanks for your help, but i know when im beaten with this one

[xguntherc]

Nice work there Viper.

I think I'm simply getting stopped by my PSU.. and thats a shame.

Also Napalm. thank you much for all the info. I'll leave ya be for now. You just seem to have it all figured out there. thats all.. Thanks for all those screeny's.
and your right. I'm just going to try and use more fsb/vtt and less vcore. thats what I'll do. for now I'm at 1.35v vtt, but I'm going to give it 1.4 or more and see how it goes.

thanks!

[xguntherc]

I can get a 2 week old.. slightly used PCP&C Silencer Quad 750w PSU for $100.00

I think I'll just do that. Sounds like a good deal. and I've heard they make some of the BEST PSU's around. this is also what Napalm suggested.
Just happened to go on sale from a friend on another forum yesterday. So I'll try and trade him for it. or I'll just buy it if I have to.

Does it have adjustable pots? do you know. or does it just run high anyways and will perform much better for me. Only thing I'm worried about is the small 80mm fan on the back. I don't want it to get loud. but it's called the silencer. so it shouldn't be to bad. I hope not at least!

[systemviper]

I took the wrong sreenshot, i will boot later today and get the settings, but i warn you, it's high...

I think i set vcore at 1.6 and mch at 1.82, but with that sweet xig direct touch, and a little breeze it kept temps good.

[xguntherc]

I bet it is High..

thats ok. Lets see it.

So to everyone thats been following this thread. or any of my questions and what not. I have "ONE" More. LOL

So basically I've sold a few things online, and some G11 keyboards and MX-518 Mice. (Have 3 of each left). and I now have an extra $100 in my paypal account. So my question is what should I do FIRST:

Should I get a new PSU. Probably the PCP&C 750w Silencer for $100 Shipped. OR Should I get some Water Cooling. like a Apogee GTZ ,or Fuzion v1,2 and a MCR220, 320 and some other things.
or would a water-cooling pump just be even more stress on my current PSU. and just be even worse.. I'm stuck between the two choices. lol

thanks. Input would be greatly appreciated.

edit* Also I got the Everest Ultimate edition. and I started it up to check some of my voltage settings and what not. To double check to see if HWMonitor was right or not. and everest shows my PSU 12v rail at 11.93.. not 7.36 like Monitor did.. lol. So that makes me feel a little better. But still not sure if thats a good enough PSU. I doubt it. Here's a screeny of me at 4.0 ghz with every big of info possible from everest. and all the voltages and what not.


This is where I am for now. Still workin on it

[carepolice]

I bet that HWMONITOR reported your +12V all way wrong back then when you used it. Still mine HX520 keeps 12.10V on wich i find pretty nice, whitout modding