ASUS Maximus II Formula - new P45 king?

[Grnfinger]

I still have a ways to go but here is where I am with this board.

Very nice work

[Guacamole]

Grnfinger is there anyway my crossfire problems could be related to the autoed 8X8 Pcie lanes?? Will that affect performance that noticeably?? Also I updated to the new drivers and now I seem to be back to about the same performance as I am with one card.. It hurts to say that out loud... My GTX SLI murders CF performance not even close....

[CryptiK]

Anyone running on the 266 strap with FSB above 450?
If so can you provide some voltage's, been trying to run 459 FSB on the 266 strap 1147MHz ram will post but wont boot into vista.
Running out of ideas here and open to suggestions

I run 445 FSB 24/7 on the 266 strap and PL8 totally stable. Not sure if you can do that too but above 450 you have problems, but let me know if you want my settings.

[Guacamole]

Dude, your not gonna see the difference with your eyes, only in bench's, and then its slight....

Dude you were wrong the 2 8X8 Pcie lanes ruins CF performance for the new video cards and limits the bandwith which essentially cuts your FPS in half totally sucks this is not a good board for CF...

[Grnfinger]

Grnfinger is there anyway my crossfire problems could be related to the autoed 8X8 Pcie lanes?? Will that affect performance that noticeably?? Also I updated to the new drivers and now I seem to be back to about the same performance as I am with one card.. It hurts to say that out loud... My GTX SLI murders CF performance not even close....

They say there is little to no noticable loss. I cannot confirm this for I only have a 3870X2. Altho it was a pain in the a$$ I moved my card from the top to bottom slot.
No difference in performance, 3DMark and Vantage scored about the same.
Everest shows it at 16x top or bottom.

I run 445 FSB 24/7 on the 266 strap and PL8 totally stable. Not sure if you can do that too but above 450 you have problems, but let me know if you want my settings.

I would be interested in that....I have been having issues with my rig all weekend. My once stable 4.0GHz is failing every test will pass linpak 10 loops one time then fail the next. run 3-4 hours prime no problems then the next run fail in 19 mins.
So I dialed back to my 12 hour prime stable 3.9GHz setting same freaking problem, not stable! Getting frustrated at this

[carepolice]

So I dialed back to my 12 hour prime stable 3.9GHz setting same freaking problem, not stable! Getting frustrated at this

Could it be degrading, No offense but i have seen few of your bios setting page and some volts are pretty high for 45nm

[bito]

Any of these with the A3 revision chipset yet ??
Seems the Gigabyte EP45-UDP's are using this latest revision to good effect !

[TonyL222]

New NB water block from Swiftech compatible with the M2F (and Rampage):

https://www.jab-tech.com/Swiftech-MC...r-pr-4272.html

Good thing is that it comes with 1/2" chrome barbs, and should be compatible with future ROG boards.

[CryptiK]

I would be interested in that....I have been having issues with my rig all weekend. My once stable 4.0GHz is failing every test will pass linpak 10 loops one time then fail the next. run 3-4 hours prime no problems then the next run fail in 19 mins.
So I dialed back to my 12 hour prime stable 3.9GHz setting same freaking problem, not stable! Getting frustrated at this

Ok well for 445 FSB PL8 on the 266 strap I run my vNB at 1.27225v, NB GTL Ref on auto. However because you have a quad obviously you'll need more voltage for stability. I know you know what you're doing but what have you tried to regain stability other than down clocking to 3.9GHz?

I have had similar instability over the past few days, and actually needed to increase my GTL's a little to regain stability.

[screwtech02]

Dude you were wrong the 2 8X8 Pcie lanes ruins CF performance for the new video cards and limits the bandwith which essentially cuts your FPS in half totally sucks this is not a good board for CF...

The only thing i have to go on is personal experiance with this board, i stuck the same 3870's in that i ran in my P5E, and was able to clock the proc to 3.75, (which the P5E wouldnt do stable). This x8 setup instantly got me over 4000 points more in 03 mark....

I dont call this a "sucky" board for crossfire....


I assume you have done a comparison????

[TonyL222]

higher FSB is faster I wouldnt use the 10 multi
9x450 would be a better setup imo and should be obtainable if your chip scales well.

9x450, even with vcore upped to 1.5v, doesn't give me a stable OC. I probably need to list my Bios settings in order for anyone to advise. Is there a good (i.e., easier) way to capture that for posting - is is it just a matter of copying it donw and typing it into a post here?

[CryptiK]

Just write your settings into the template we have been using to post settings in this thread and embed it using PHP code so it doesn't take up too much room.

[s@ber]

Does this board have compatibility problems with some mems? Meaning like Transend axeram or A-Data? I just cant get even 450FSB stable with any of setting wich have been posted here : / Even with solarfalls posted settings arent stable (this is his old mobo). Eventhought that ppl voltage is too low (1,51 is nearly the standart).

PPL 1,51
FSB ter. vol. 1,33
NB 1,43

One thing i havent tried yet is older bios with those setting.

CPU cant be the problem, cause this e8600 goes just fine with biostar Tpower. Mems are A-Data Vitesta Extreme PC2-6400+ and transend axerams with micron D9GMH chips.

[Grnfinger]

Ok well for 445 FSB PL8 on the 266 strap I run my vNB at 1.27225v, NB GTL Ref on auto. However because you have a quad obviously you'll need more voltage for stability. I know you know what you're doing but what have you tried to regain stability other than down clocking to 3.9GHz?

I have had similar instability over the past few days, and actually needed to increase my GTL's a little to regain stability.

I have upped VTT PLL GTL's same damn thing core 4 fails at the 1 hour 19-22 min mark in prime BUT will pass 10 loops of linpak but run it twice and it fails 1out of 10 loops
I suppose it could be burn in, ran the chip hard since it was new just didnt want to up vCore any more.

Could it be degrading, No offense but i have seen few of your bios setting page and some volts are pretty high for 45nm

This is not Grandma's house if your affraid to push you chip then I think your in the wrong forum

And you really think I post my final settings?

[SiGfever]

@Grnfinger,
Just wanted to say thanks for all the help you have given me. The DVD download was way beyond the call of duty and I really appreciate it.

[Grnfinger]

@Grnfinger,
Just wanted to say thanks for all the help you have given me. The DVD download was way beyond the call of duty and I really appreciate it.

Anytime, Glad I could help you

[Guacamole]

The only thing i have to go on is personal experiance with this board, i stuck the same 3870's in that i ran in my P5E, and was able to clock the proc to 3.75, (which the P5E wouldnt do stable). This x8 setup instantly got me over 4000 points more in 03 mark....

I dont call this a "sucky" board for crossfire....


I assume you have done a comparison????

Sorry I wasn't trying to be a jerk it's just that I spent a bunch of time in the ATi threads asking questions and these new cards get bottlenecked if they don't have the bandwith I guess it's a problem with the 4000 series cards more than anything else the whole 10.1 and Pcie 2.0 with GDDR5 needs the maximum through-put or you experience this sort of loss of FPS.. At least I know I am not crazy I just spent sooo much time trying to dial in the settings to no avail... I meant no disrespect I think I was tired and frustrasted when I posted that I am sorry...

[CryptiK]

I have upped VTT PLL GTL's same damn thing core 4 fails at the 1 hour 19-22 min mark in prime BUT will pass 10 loops of linpak but run it twice and it fails 1out of 10 loops
I suppose it could be burn in, ran the chip hard since it was new just didnt want to up vCore any more.

Almost sounds heat related, what temp does it get to in Linpack and does it get hotter when running it for the second time when it fails 1/10 tests? Have you tried increasing vNB a couple of notches and re-testing?

Also have you tried increasing vcore a notch or two? It could be through its burn in phase.

[Grnfinger]

Almost sounds heat related, what temp does it get to in Linpack and does it get hotter when running it for the second time when it fails 1/10 tests? Have you tried increasing vNB a couple of notches and re-testing?

Also have you tried increasing vcore a notch or two? It could be through its burn in phase.

Chip is stable again.
Temps are stellar low to mid 60's when running linpak, low 50's when running prime.
All it needed was 2 bumps of vCore.

[CryptiK]

Glad you sorted it out. That's what happened to mine, I've had to increase the vcore 32mv from what used to be stable, and now I think it is through the burn in phase (hopefully). When it first happened it really confused me, I looked at everything else first then finally gave in and increased vcore; problem solved.

[Gunnz Akimbo]

i got the speeding hdd controller too boot, but i thinks its because the first drive on the intel port is a bootable vista drive.

Still not sure if its able to boot from the speeding hdd alone.

[screwtech02]

Sorry I wasn't trying to be a jerk it's just that I spent a bunch of time in the ATi threads asking questions and these new cards get bottlenecked if they don't have the bandwith I guess it's a problem with the 4000 series cards more than anything else the whole 10.1 and Pcie 2.0 with GDDR5 needs the maximum through-put or you experience this sort of loss of FPS.. At least I know I am not crazy I just spent sooo much time trying to dial in the settings to no avail... I meant no disrespect I think I was tired and frustrasted when I posted that I am sorry...

NP man, no offnese taken.....

[screwtech02]

You ought to be able to boot from the speeding setup, you just have to install the os on the speeding controler to do it....

[drnick]

A follow up on my board which rebooted during windows memtest and subsequently got "stuck" at CPU INIT and wouldn't post anymore- I removed the CPU (e8600) and cleared CMOS then popped it back in- still no post with LCD still showing CPU INIT. I even tried a different CPU (an e6850) and still no post. So I brought it back to the store and swapped it for a new one (techs at store did a perfunctory test on the board and declared it defective).

I think the old board had my RAM for breakfast though! I had 4x1GB sticks of ballistix (my cherished vintage double sided memory bank variety) in it when it crapped out, and now when I put them back in another setup (where they were working fine before I pulled them for the MIIF) they immediately throw thousands of errors in memtest at stock speed and voltage.

I do have a general memory question(s): All things equal, will 2x2GB sticks or 4x1GB sticks require more NB voltage on this board, and given the choice between the two, what would most people prefer to use if they wanted 4GB of memory?

Thanks for the advice.

[Grnfinger]

A follow up on my board which rebooted during windows memtest and subsequently got "stuck" at CPU INIT and wouldn't post anymore- I removed the CPU (e8600) and cleared CMOS then popped it back in- still no post with LCD still showing CPU INIT. I even tried a different CPU (an e6850) and still no post. So I brought it back to the store and swapped it for a new one (techs at store did a perfunctory test on the board and declared it defective).

I think the old board had my RAM for breakfast though! I had 4x1GB sticks of ballistix (my cherished vintage double sided memory bank variety) in it when it crapped out, and now when I put them back in another setup (where they were working fine before I pulled them for the MIIF) they immediately throw thousands of errors in memtest at stock speed and voltage.

I do have a general memory question(s): All things equal, will 2x2GB sticks or 4x1GB sticks require more NB voltage on this board, and given the choice between the two, what would most people prefer to use if they wanted 4GB of memory?

Thanks for the advice.

4x1GB sticks will tax the NB harder than 2x2GBs
2x2 is the better choice imo