"ASUS P5Q Deluxe discussion".

[truehighroller]

Ok... 11 hours completely stable cpu running prime95 with SmallFFT's! With MemTest for windows also zero errors with these settings:


AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.0
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 450
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1081
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual (timings: 5-5-5-15)

CPU Voltage: 1.33125
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.67
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.67
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.24
DRAM Voltage: 2.14
NB Voltage: 1.30
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: 1.20
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.60

@truehighroller: For now I'll let it running folding@home and later tonight when I get home let's see if windows crashed or not! If not I'll try to reduce DRAM Voltage to 2.12 and will run prime 95 again, but this time with blend test!

After that, and if all goes well after 2/3 days, I'll try your suggestions

Bad thing is with you having your vfsb so high that if you sit there and burn it in at that high spot 1.24 for 3.6GHZ it can burn it self into that spot and want to stay set that high but, it's ok it is your chip. I have mine set to 1.22 and it won't run below it now "overclocked I mean". I just figured if you are going to be running that low 3.6GHZ all the time then you might want to burn it into a lower spot then that, that's all.

[gurusan]

"Burn in" the vFSB? :/

[truehighroller]

Intel states and I think I have proven it "to my self atleast" that they are right, if you set it higher then what they recomend it will burn itself into liking that spot whatever you have it set to yada yada exc. and they say to be weary of this. I suppose it is not that big of a deal but, if you can get it to start liking a lower setting by hitting it with the lower setting right away, while burning it in, why not do that?

[BRSG]

Damm Damm Damm

Got home and vista had crashed! Don't know what else to do

Changed bios settings to:

AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.0
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 450
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1081
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual (timings: 5-5-5-15)

CPU Voltage: 1.33125
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.64
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.64
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.54
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.22
DRAM Voltage: 2.14
NB Voltage: 1.30
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: 1.20
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.60

I'm really getting angry and at the same time disappointed with my new hardware config

[truehighroller]

Changed it before it crashed or after like just now and you are going to test it?

[BRSG]

Changed it after it crashed and just had to change it once more... Vista crashed, AGAIN

AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.0
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 450
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1081
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual (timings: 5-5-5-15)

CPU Voltage: 1.33125
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.64
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.64
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.22
DRAM Voltage: 2.14
NB Voltage: 1.30
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: 1.20
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.60

I really don't know what's happening, because if my memory doesn't fails me, even with all at default in bios (with other dram sticks) vista crashed after a few hours, even after all night running prime95 without errors

[mac_69]

I'm prime testing these right now - thanks for the headsup on reduced settings

*Edited 15th OCtober for 1406 bios and new settings gleaned from the thread - thanks all!

AI TWEAKER:
AI Tweaker:
Ai overclock: manual
CPU ratio setting: auto
FSB frequency: 450
PCIE freq: 100
FSB strap to NB: Auto
DRAM freq: Auto
everything Auto then
DRAM timing, Manual 5-5-5-15
DRAM static : Auto
DRAM read training: Auto
MEM OC charger: Auto
Ai Clock Twister: Auto
Ai Transaction booster: Auto
Common Performance level: Auto
Pull ins all set: disabled

CPU Voltage: 1.35 (This is high relative to other users but my chip need it)

CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.63
CPU GTL (1/3): 0.63
CPU PLL: 1.54
FSB Termination: 1.22
DRAM: 2.02
NB Voltage: 1.28
NB GTL Reference: Auto
SB Voltage: 1.20
PCIE Sata voltage: 1.50

Load line Calibration: Enabled
CPU spread: disabled
PCIE spread: disabled
CPU clock Skew: Auto
NB clock skew: Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement: Performance mode

Next page: Advanced: CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Setting: Auto
C1E Support: Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization: Disabled
CPU TM: Disabled
Execute Disable bit: Disabled
Intel Speed Step: Enabled

*I like speed step for keeping temps low

[mac_69]

Changed it after it crashed and just had to change it once more... Vista crashed, AGAIN

AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.0
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 450
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1081
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual (timings: 5-5-5-15)

CPU Voltage: 1.33125
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.64
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.64
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.22
DRAM Voltage: 2.14
NB Voltage: 1.30
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: 1.20
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.60

I really don't know what's happening, because if my memory doesn't fails me, even with all at default in bios (with other dram sticks) vista crashed after a few hours, even after all night running prime95 without errors

I'm running Vista x64 with SP1 here.
I'm no expert, could be a lot of things including:
vista up to date, disk check,

What about your other settings in the other CPU TAB?

good luck troubleshooting

[FabricioGS]

What do you guys think of it?



AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.0
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 266
FSB Frequency: 450
PCI-E Frequency: 103
DRAM Frequency: 1125
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual (timings: 5-5-5-15)

CPU Voltage: 1.41250v
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.630
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.670
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.28
DRAM Voltage: 1.86
NB Voltage: 1.20
NB GTL Reference: 0.630
SBridge Voltage: 1.10V
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.50V

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
NB Clock Skew : Normal
CPU Margin : Optimized

I'd like to use a little less vcore. Wich volts should I change?

[CryptiK]

Try increasing GTL 0/2 to 0.670x.

Fine tuning the GTL's can help reduce vcore a little when you get them right.

[JakFrost]

[B]
At this point I would like to Request each every single P5Q Deluxe owner to immediately flash to the latest 1406 BIOS. Please remember that most of us Q9450 owners *Did Not* have problems with the BIOS > 0803 Immediately after flashing - the problems started over a period of time. Regardless of the Quad-Core CPU you are using - if you don't have any issues with any Prior BIOS does not mean you won't start having issues.

Finally it sounds like Asus is getting their crap together and after months they released a good BIOS for the Q9400 Yorkfield that I'm planning on getting.

I'm researching these Asus P5Q motherboards so I haven't purchased one yet and I've been holding off waiting for the horror show of problems to turn into a kiddie ride before I jump on the bandwagon and do a system upgrade since I got burned with DFI last time I build a system. I've been following this thread and the one HardOCP regarding these motherboards so I'm happy to hear good news.

Personally I'm thinking of getting the PQ5-E 8-phase power version of this board but I want to know if there is any reason to shell out $50 USD more to get the Deluxe 16-phase power?

Anyone reporting higher overclocks with the PQ5 Deluxe versus the -E that would justify the extra cabbage?

[ThugsRook]

i got 533fsb going!

first time its actually passing stress tests

CPU Margin Enhancement: COMPATIBLE ...FTW

[carepolice]

i got 533fsb going!

first time its actually passing stress tests

CPU Margin Enhancement: COMPATIBLE ...FTW

Does it really help you?

[ThugsRook]

Does it really help you?

yes! absolutely

i dont know if its completely stable yet, its all i changed, nothing else, and it made a huge difference. (bios rev1406/P5Q/e8200/air)

i keep yas updated on my progress, might need a tad more vNB cause im still running on the same board voltages that i did @ 500fsb...


CPU GTL Voltage Reference: AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.14
DRAM Voltage: 2.10
NB Voltage: 1.14
SB Voltage: 1.10
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.50

[Leeghoofd]

I have a request.

My request is; run 2.04 or 2.06v ram voltage and see if your system becomes Unstable with the P5Q Deluxe with anyone running bios 1406 please.

K Lar mate finished the tests (sorry for the delay) but it took at least an hour per setting and it was mainly an after midnite job

First I booted the mobo with 0803 bios and used these settings :

1.94 (test 1) and 2.04 VDimm set (test2) , Vcore adjusted according bios
E8600 with 10 x 450FSB/1081Mhz -- 4GB PC8000 Mushkin Redline/4Gb Gskill PC8000PQ 5-5-5-15-55
WinXP Pro 32bit

CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.640
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.640
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.54
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.24
NB Voltage: 1.26
NB GTL Reference: 0.630
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

On 0803 both Dimm voltage settings passed linpack test (repeated 3 times with a 10 test run) without altering any other setting then Vdimm :

1.94 Vdimm :



2.04 Vdimm



Then I reflashed back to 1406 (knowing I need a tiny bit more Vcore there)

1.94 Vdimm and CPU 1.381Vcore set



2.04 Vdimm and 1.381 Vcore failed 1-2 itenerations each time , rebooted reran 1.94 Vdimm, passed..Tried other rams... passes... upped Vdimm : failed bummer...
Started messing with the all the voltages but only a bit more Vcore helped me to pas the Linpack test 3 times in a row with zero failures...(for each ram set) I'm really puzzled here... will try the same on the other deluxe this week.

So to pass with 2.04Vdimm on 1406 I needed to up the Vcore to 1.387 (not 1.386 as in the piccie, that's a typo)



Hope it helps or maybe confuses you even more

[BRSG]

In my quest for stability, here's my bios config now:

AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.0
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 450
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1081
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual (timings: 5-5-5-15)

CPU Voltage: 1.33125
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.67
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.64
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.24
DRAM Voltage: 2.14
NB Voltage: 1.28
NB GTL Reference: 0.63
SBridge Voltage: 1.20
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.60

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.0
CPU VID: Disabled
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Enabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled

IntelBurnTest after 50 runs:



Currently running Prime95 with blend test...

[Big Lar]

K Lar mate finished the tests (sorry for the delay) but it took at least an hour per setting and it was mainly an after midnite job

First I booted the mobo with 0803 bios and used these settings :

1.94 (test 1) and 2.04 VDimm set (test2) , Vcore adjusted according bios
E8600 with 10 x 450FSB/1081Mhz -- 4GB PC8000 Mushkin Redline/4Gb Gskill PC8000PQ 5-5-5-15-55
WinXP Pro 32bit

CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.640
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.640
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.54
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.24
NB Voltage: 1.26
NB GTL Reference: 0.630
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

On 0803 both Dimm voltage settings passed linpack test (repeated 3 times with a 10 test run) without altering any other setting then Vdimm :

1.94 Vdimm :



2.04 Vdimm



Then I reflashed back to 1406 (knowing I need a tiny bit more Vcore there)

1.94 Vdimm and CPU 1.381Vcore set



2.04 Vdimm and 1.381 Vcore failed 1-2 itenerations each time , rebooted reran 1.94 Vdimm, passed..Tried other rams... passes... upped Vdimm : failed bummer...
Started messing with the all the voltages but only a bit more Vcore helped me to pas the Linpack test 3 times in a row with zero failures...(for each ram set) I'm really puzzled here... will try the same on the other deluxe this week.

So to pass with 2.04Vdimm on 1406 I needed to up the Vcore to 1.387 (not 1.386 as in the piccie, that's a typo)



Hope it helps or maybe confuses you even more

Wow! TY for doing that for me, Very much appreciated! Been testing some here myself,I bought a new P5Q Deluxe and am running the setup on it (same revision board). Seems my problem was the board so I am going to RMA it. The new board has 1406 on it now and is running 8x480 with 1.98v (vdimm),with a lower NB of 1.32v versus 1.34v on the old 1.

I can run 484fsb on this board with 2.0v vdimm, so it was the board! Thank you again Very much for your testing time and effort, Very much appreciated! Time to set up my rma.

Larry

[Singh400]

Upgraded last night to 1406. Kept the same settings as 0803. With CME set to Performance. Passed linpack (10x). And Prime95-Blend 8hrs+.

I'm a happy bunny.

[truehighroller]

Yeah I finally passed Prime myself and was happy like damn it's about time I actually passed prime on this board. That was the firs time I have passed it with this board. I could always pass IBT.

[Big Lar]

Yeah I finally passed Prime myself and was happy like damn it's about time I actually passed prime on this board. That was the firs time I have passed it with this board. I could always pass IBT.

With my new board as well as the old board that I am going to rma, CME would freeze me up in Prime Blend if I used Performance. Optimized is fine tho...

Larry

[truehighroller]

I find it odd that certain settings work with certain quads and other quads they won't..

[*GiZmO*]

Hi,guys!Ihave an annoying problem with my P5Q Dlx!Everytime,I restart or turn of my computer,it doesn`t post!Actually,it boot`s,then turns off/on and then nothing!Next steps I have to do,is to powering off my PSU for 5s,then powering on again,in this case it post`s,but only to bios,where I have again to set the parameters!Then I normaly come into OS,but I notice,that clock is set to 0:00!This happens over and over again!This is really annoying!The problem is present in stock or OC settings!And ,yes,I have the leatest bios 1406!I would be grateful
for any help!

[FabricioGS]

Try increasing GTL 0/2 to 0.670x.

Fine tuning the GTL's can help reduce vcore a little when you get them right.

Thanks, I'll give it a try as soon i get home.

[anzial]

Hi,guys!Ihave an annoying problem with my P5Q Dlx!Everytime,I restart or turn of my computer,it doesn`t post!Actually,it boot`s,then turns off/on and then nothing!Next steps I have to do,is to powering off my PSU for 5s,then powering on again,in this case it post`s,but only to bios,where I have again to set the parameters!Then I normaly come into OS,but I notice,that clock is set to 0:00!This happens over and over again!This is really annoying!The problem is present in stock or OC settings!And ,yes,I have the leatest bios 1406!I would be grateful
for any help!

Reseat the PSU connectors to the motherboard

[*GiZmO*]

Reseat the PSU connectors to the motherboard

Doesn`t help much!