Quote Originally Posted by charged3800z24 View Post
This is what peeps seem to not understand between the 2 chip designs. I think Phenom 65n is holding it's own based on this.
Quote Originally Posted by informal View Post
You agree with what?All he said is "1.6V for 4Ghz ...w00t? " .
You are not making any sense,apart from making yourself look uneducated with those clueless cache/design comments you made.Now you make another clueless comment without even seeing in what contest the latest 4Ghz shot was made(a preview of maximum clock is not going to be done with stock cooling,would it? great find Columbus )

Deneb is running much cooler and draws much less power than 65nm Agena.We know this as a fact from August(the earliest C0 stepping,C2 will be better):
http://en.hardspell.com/doc/showcont...58&pageid=3150

Idle:


Deneb draws 21% less power than same clock/same volts Agena!
So idle testing shows you are wring,yet again!Sigh...

Load:


104/57=1.81 ,so Deneb draws 81% less power than same clock/same volts Agena! That's almost 2x less!!!
Now your claim about Deneb running hot is not only busted,it's shattered...Sigh 2nd time..

(techpower)

we see Deneb 4.0ghz at 1.6V's air ? O_o

Deneb is looking better all the time now lol