Anyone tried this D5 pump top? O___O

[Eddie3dfx]

How does everyone get a temp sensor into an 'empty' plug hole? Do you make one yourself, with sealant, or can you buy a plug with a pre-fitted sensor?

Yeah, koolance, bitspower, alphacool, and a few others make 1/4" plugs that are temp sensors.

[Big_Daddy]

How does everyone get a temp sensor into an 'empty' plug hole? Do you make one yourself, with sealant, or can you buy a plug with a pre-fitted sensor?

Compliments of PPC's

[geoffsthaboss]

lets get one to martin!
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really though i like this top, really spiffs up the d5
ive always wanted to see a XSPC d5 top, and this is close enough for me

[Sadasius]

Too bad they don't have one that uses 2 pumps instead or I would get one to try it out. I think it could a really cool line if they can expand on the variety of applications such as two loops etc.

[geoffsthaboss]

thatd be hard with the d5 just cuz its so big
much easier with the DDC because of the smaller size

[Sadasius]

I don't think it would be hard at all actually. The motor of the pump is all your using. It's the clamp ring and top that makes it wider then anything else. A res with two separate compartments for two pumps would work out nicely and save a hell of a lot of space and time in managing hardware etc. Also to make it really smart you can have a removable center piece for those really big single loops. That way it is versatile as well. Heck got one pump? Just use a block plate and plugs.

[axis]

Is it not physically big enough, in terms of fluid volume, to feed the D5 and another pump off one of the lower rear ports? That would give you a common reservior for two pumps, thus saving you quite a bit of space and hassle of watching two seperate reserviors.

Axis

[BreeSpree]

Uhm, if there is 4 fittings on that thing and it's for 2 loops off one pump, I think the product is crapsauce. Also, as RRR said, it could not be one of the top performers. The design seems flawed and it may actually be worse than the regular D5 without the top. It looks like it will lose flow rate, because it is does not look as compact as the other pump tops. I know it is supposed to be a res, so you should see it, but if this was made out of delrin and had a better design it would be great. I do like the idea that it fits in your 5.25 bays though. Would also be very cool if they made a dual D5 version.

[NaeKuh]

im getting ideas with this unit and a shuttle box.



i might actually want to get one for the hell of it. I have 4 D5's sitting unused because there too big and ugly.

[Sadasius]

Hmmmm I am thinking of buying one of these and doing some surgery. Would be cool to get it made out of delrin or acetal instead of the plexi. Maybe just leave the front plexi or something that way I would not be paranoid all the time and checking in the case for cracks with a flashlight.

[BoxGods]

I am not sure on the policy here on company reps commenting on products in the forums. I am not really a rep for Primo Chill, but I did design the Typhoon III. Not finding the TOS anywhere either so I will post a little info and if thats a problem a moderator can let me know.

There are 2 versions. A pumped version, and a standard version.

Yes there IS some pressure drop compared to a pump running one loop but you gain some of that back by not pumping heated water from one component into the next on the loop, or removing unneeded T's, Y's, L's and manifolds that restrict flow on traditional 2 loop systems.

The warranty being linked to earlier in the thread is to the Typhoon I from long ago. The warranty for the Typhoon III is 3 years. Please see:
http://www.primochill.com/

Samples are being sent to Martin, and skinnee for independent evaluation. They SHOULD be getting them in about 14 to 20 days.

Fill ports on the front make more sense for most users then ports on top. To fill the system you tilt your case onto it's back which makes the reservoir the highest point in the loop. There are 2 fill/bleed ports in a built in catch basin to make filling easier. The inner surface is domed so that you can fill the loop 100% with NO trapped air. To drain your system or to flush it you simply tilt the case onto its front, making the reservoir the LOWEST point in the loop, and remove a plug, much like draining the oil from your car. Again, the domed inside allows you to drain it DRY.

There are a great many enhancements in the inlet and outlet/s among other things so performance may surprise some of you. That said, Typhoon III is not aimed at the harder core water coolers in here, but rather users looking for solid performance, easy user friendly mounting, good looks, etc.. I could have designed the 48th after market D5 pump top and increased performance by .0005 percent but rather chose to think outside the box, try a new approach and do a quality design.

No, you really can't fit two D5's on a dual bay reservoir effectively. You will note with all 4 ports on the pumped version pointing rearward the Typhoon III is a true 2 slot solution as there is no turning radius required above or bellow for the loop.

Yes there is a dual DDC version coming shortly, likely by or before Christmas.

I can list all the included compression and barbed fittings and LED plugs (all are clear) and post images if anyone is interested. The package is very complete.

Price for the pumped version without pump is expected to be $60 USD I believe but am not sure as I have nothing to do with that.

That is all I can remember from the thread lol.

If anyone has more questions I will be happy to do my best to answer, again if that is OK with the admins. If not, please just let me know.

[hotdun]

I am not sure on the policy here on company reps commenting on products in the forums. I am not really a rep for Primo Chill, but I did design the Typhoon III....

Well, that pretty much says it all. Cool idea and nice design Looking forward to the reviews.

[crazy1323]

I want to see some test on these before I buy one. I would be very very interested in the dual DDC version for my EK Supreme CPU loop.

EDIT: do you think with a little scuffing up this could be painted black or would that have bad effects on the plastic?

[Herc130]

Two Loops on one pump ???

I wouldn't run it one pump for two loops, but two loops with two pumps each with this res/top would be tempting for my motherboard loop/s. I like a back up pump on all loops and was considering running a loop for the NB/SB and a loop for memory and mosfets.....but no way would I do that because of how many pumps I'd need. This is a very nice solution. Will use the same two pumps I had planned for everything on the motherboard other then cpu/gpu and split it into two loops and still have back up pumpage. Or I could take the four pumps I had planned for the two video card loops and only go with 3 pumps...the third pump using this res/top and joining the two loops together in the res before it splits off into different rads and then to VGA pump 1 and VGA pump 2




Only problem is I run DDC's....hmm oh well

[BoxGods]

I want to see some test on these before I buy one. I would be very very interested in the dual DDC version for my EK Supreme CPU loop.

EDIT: do you think with a little scuffing up this could be painted black or would that have bad effects on the plastic?

Martin and skinnee are going to beat numbers out of it so you will have them =)

DDC version has actually been fun to design and I am also waiting anxiously for it as I have a Lian-Li v300 SFF waiting for one. It should allow me to install the dual bay rez on one side, and an optical drive on the other.

I designed the T3 to be modder friendly and insisted Primo Chill make BOTH versions available unassembled so that modders can hack it up however they want, change the flow wheel, paint it or anything else.

***EDIT*** I need to be clear, Typhoon III ships assembled and ready to roll, but any modders wanting the unit NOT welded together can contact Primo Chill or me at BoxGods.com about the modders version.

It is cast acrylic so yes it can be painted, though I would not paint the inside (obviously) and would use Painters touch type plastic paints. Also, both reservoirs will come with complete fitting packages including molded clear compression fittings and LED plugs...these will be polycarbonate...I cant imagine you wanting to paint them, but modders think of reasons to do things all the time. Anyone remember the cig lighter mod? lol

[Martinm210]

Oh..nice...glad to see the use of polycarbonate...that's great and should ensure some nice durability!

[BoxGods]

I wouldn't run it one pump for two loops, but two loops with two pumps each with this res/top would be tempting for my motherboard loop/s. I like a back up pump on all loops and was considering running a loop for the NB/SB and a loop for memory and mosfets.....but no way would I do that because of how many pumps I'd need. This is a very nice solution. Will use the same two pumps I had planned for everything on the motherboard other then cpu/gpu and split it into two loops and still have back up pumpage. Only problem is I run DDC's....hmm oh well

I used to say the same thing lol. Keeping in mind T3 is NOT designed to be the worlds fastest D5 top, look at it a different way. Years back when DD and a few others were breaking out with the MAZE the CPU was much hotter then video cards of the time. My Matrox G400 had a tiny little passive heat sink. Now its reversed...cards are getting hotter and hotter and CPU's are using less and less power.

Do you pump water from a single loop through your quad core CPU, then into and through one or two video cards? My thinking was that yes you are going to loose some pressure splitting the loops but your pumping cooler water into your components. If the point is to have the worlds most powerful D5 great, I can eek out 1% gains as well as the next guy. For most though the goal is more cooling efficiency. Even if you split your favorite D5 top into two loops using a manifold, some Y's, T's, L,s etc you loose that small % of gain over T3 because you get shorter cleaner runs...

Again, I was just trying a new approach.

[Navanod]

Woot~~
I'm already on PC ICE, hehe
If the price is really $60USD or there about, this will be really tempting!

[BoxGods]

I wouldn't run it one pump for two loops, but two loops with two pumps each with this res/top would be tempting for my motherboard loop/s. I like a back up pump on all loops and was considering running a loop for the NB/SB and a loop for memory and mosfets.....but no way would I do that because of how many pumps I'd need. This is a very nice solution. Will use the same two pumps I had planned for everything on the motherboard other then cpu/gpu and split it into two loops and still have back up pumpage. Or I could take the four pumps I had planned for the two video card loops and only go with 3 pumps...the third pump using this res/top and joining the two loops together in the res before it splits off into different rads and then to VGA pump 1 and VGA pump 2




Only problem is I run DDC's....hmm oh well

Looks like the Darth Bevis approach...stuff rads, pumps, and reservoirs in till the case bursts, then get a bigger case and stuff 43 fans in it lol.

Do you know ProTek by any chance? He is a modding buddy of mine living in HI (how many of you can there be there right? =)

[BoxGods]

Woot~~
I'm already on PC ICE, hehe
If the price is really $60USD or there about, this will be really tempting!

The initial pricing I saw from Primo Chill (my design fees are determined partially from this information so I pay attention =) was:

$50 USD for the standard 8 port with flow indicator.
$60 USD for the Pumped version w/o pump.
$120 USD for the Pumped with D5.

Again, I have no say at all on pricing and those numbers could change.

Considering its a pump top, 2 port manifold, fill port etc all in one and comes with a full set of killer clear fittings including my rather snazzy tool free LED plugs...the price is pretty fair (IMHO).

[Primo_Brian]

Hello All,
Just thought I would pop in and see what is going on, and it seems to be a bunch....lol...

Oh..nice...glad to see the use of polycarbonate...that's great and should ensure some nice durability!

Here are some teaser images of the Polycarbonate Ghost fittings and Tool included LED plug..WOW....a tool NICE..





There is a HEX shaped pocket in the back of the plug. The cap has the same HEX and is used as a wrench to tighten the plug in place. You then insert your LED into the pocket and use the cap to secure it in place.

The clear G1/4 Ghost fittings will come with the Typhoon III also. One pair each of 1/2" and 3/8". The colored versions will sell separately in several colors. They completely disappear when installed. ZERO fitting shows so modders will have very clean looking installations. The 1/2" will also be a high volume (.40" ID) fitting.

Nice work Geno

[Waterlogged]

I used to say the same thing lol. Keeping in mind T3 is NOT designed to be the worlds fastest D5 top, look at it a different way. Years back when DD and a few others were breaking out with the MAZE the CPU was much hotter then video cards of the time. My Matrox G400 had a tiny little passive heat sink. Now its reversed...cards are getting hotter and hotter and CPU's are using less and less power.

Do you pump water from a single loop through your quad core CPU, then into and through one or two video cards? My thinking was that yes you are going to loose some pressure splitting the loops but your pumping cooler water into your components. If the point is to have the worlds most powerful D5 great, I can eek out 1% gains as well as the next guy. For most though the goal is more cooling efficiency. Even if you split your favorite D5 top into two loops using a manifold, some Y's, T's, L,s etc you loose that small % of gain over T3 because you get shorter cleaner runs...

Again, I was just trying a new approach.

Don't mean to be a wet dish rag but, GPU's aren't temp limited when OC'ing these days (for the average user) and are much more tolerant of higher temps so any water they get is pretty much all they'll ever need. We routinely see GPU's drop 30°C to 40°C when ppl go from air to water, another couple degrees cooler water isn't going to help them at all. I do look forward to the testing and release of these though as I see it as a way to possibly now fit a D5 into one of my mATX cases....on the other hand, that dual DDC res is sounding just as good.

[HotGore]

Sell it for $75 or less and fits in one or two 5.25" bays then I am sold.

[skinnee]

Don't mean to be a wet dish rag but, GPU's aren't temp limited when OC'ing these days (for the average user) and are much more tolerant of higher temps so any water they get is pretty much all they'll ever need. We routinely see GPU's drop 30°C to 40°C when ppl go from air to water, another couple degrees cooler water isn't going to help them at all. I do look forward to the testing and release of these though as I see it as a way to possibly now fit a D5 into one of my mATX cases....on the other hand, that dual DDC res is sounding just as good.

my interest has definitely been perked up on the ddc res!

[evilsponge]

I like it

-sponge