To everyone in the WC section, Please read!

[Movieman]

i dont run my mouth on any company unless i catch them slipping.

And believe me when i go off on a post on that company, i HAVE FULL ON PROOF!


But dave, you also need to list that a company if they want to promote on this site, needs to have full data backed on ANY statement they say. Dont make us bring another Koolance vs HWLabs incident. Cuz i will bring one if i catch a company slipping and lying to us.

R3 knows what company i currently have my eye on as well. I almost have enough proof to lay a can of whoopass on them as well.

Lying vendors shouldnt even be on this forum, so if we run them off, GOOD.

There are ways to do things. Do it in a civilized manner and not "This frigging company sucks donkey di*cks!"..
Like the movie Roadhouse, "There's times to be nice and times not to be nice"
You find a POS product like those steel Koolance fittings show it, document it but don't say the owner of Koolance is the offspring of two mentally retarded Chimpanzee's..
Get my point.. civil..
Now I know your full of piss and vinegar and still young enough that the testosterone rules so whe you have that overwhelming urge to totally bas someone, PM me and do it ok?

I agree with CD, I think alot of the problems have occurred because folks need to "Do something (that does NOT mean posting in this forum)". the old days of the forum used to be filled with people testing stuff and fabricating custom projects. Back in those days folks were too busy with a copper slab on thier drill presses or soldering on a heatercore, you just didn't get here without some pain and time invested in building stuff, it was a necessity. With watercooling going more mainstream, water cooling has made fabrication optional, you can have a fully functional water cooling system out of the box with 100% bolt on parts. No need to build and no need to test or tinker, it works. So I think part of it is just plain boredom, they don't share or contribute anything to the forum but their strong personality and business relationship opinions. I'd suggest taking the mix of parts and try and see if you can make them better, tinkering is always a means to make something even better and there is no one magic bullet or perfect combination for everyones budget or experience. We need more folks "Trying" or "Building" wierd ideas and, that's where the fun is at!! And even if we're not building parts from scratch, there's still tons to do with combinations of parts and sharing what you've learned.

I also think in general the "feel" here has been defensive and destructive. If you make folks feel uncomfortable or always find yourself in the middle of irritation, chances are you are being "Destructive" to the thread. If you are not posting something with 100% intent to help posotively encourage and help the person posting, you've failed at being constructive and you are being selfish. You shouldn't find yourself in the middle of conflict on every other thread or chances are, something is wrong. Take ownership of your actions and seek to be constructive.

I also think people are just sick of all the SPAM. AKA brand loyalty and fanboism, whatever you know what it is. Opinions without context as to why you feel the way you do is no different than your most annoying pop up banner ad. Opinions without context are SPAM!!

That's not to say we shouldn't have fun. If the forum was nothing but engineering data, I'd probably be one of a few sick souls that would stay here and enjoy reading it, but it would be quiet. Honestly water cooling is a hobby, it's not necessary, and it's not a perfect science. We're here to have fun, so lets do it, but just don't do it at the expense of others.

Cheers to constructive comments, constructive discussions, context supported opinions, and having an honest but respectful good time!!


Beers are on me!..

Excellent post.. I'll take a old fashioned Miller..Ice cold please..

So he left because people have an attitude when they post? Well i dont know if thats against the rules or not but generally thats the same attitude in any of the forums, people are who they are your not gona be able to change the way people talk because your thin skinned. Ive seen the fanboism but in the liquid cooling section i really dont think its that bad, ive gotten more valuable information out of this sub section then any of the others, people dont get excited and recommend EK blocks because they are fanboys, they recommend them because they are the best, plain and simple. Getting pissy because for the past 6 months every one is recommending EK waterblocks and giving an attitude over the way other companys poorly manufacture their products isnt fanboism, its the truth, plain and simple. You want the cold hard truth about how to build a awesome watercooling system, you come to the XS water cooling forum, you want to post how awesome your brand new 100 dollar koolance kit is, with the rotting compression fittings and the mixed matched metals, and have everyone tell you how uber cool it is, you go the IGN forums where they ban people on the spot for posting sny remarks against their sponsors.

Sorry thats just the way i feel, ive never had anyone in this liquid cooling section have an attitude that was out of line or hurt my feelings.

It has gotten bad lately, trust me on that.
I wouldn't have typed till my fingers fell off if things were fine here.

I still think if a vendor puts out junk, they should be called out on it. Most of the time they know what they are doing when they "slip", they just choose to soak up profits.

Yes, but as I said to Naekuh, with tact and facts to prove your position.