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I have been around this Forum for longer than I was a member and I was still around longer after joining before I felt comfortable posting in the Liquid Cooling Forum. If you want to see a classic XS Welcome to a "new guy" trying to share an Xtreme project take a look at my Thread about my "Monolith" cooler. I don't have to name names..the posts are all there to speak for themselves. It was far from a friendly experience. I felt harangued by a couple of the regulars here over the stupidest stuff...using pipe paste on an O-ring fitting, and not getting my nomenclature perfectly correct when identifying the types of fittings I was using.
Seriously...if it was not for the fact that I had already built DOZENS of liquid cooled systems professionally by that time I might have just deleted the thread and moved on...but since I have confidence in myself I was able to confront my Trolls and prove without a doubt that I am one of the most Xtreme Watercooling Fanatics on this Forum.
It irks me no end to see relative newcomers trying to better rank themselves in some sort of perverse pecking order...they form alliances and hold grudges and do battle as if this were a constructive and meaningful addition to the Liquid Cooling Forum.
I see innovators being ranked lower than replicators and I see a lot of snippy exchanges.
I see a lot of "shadow" promotion/badmouthing going on (which I am glad Movieman recognizes and despises) and it's setting a poor tone for anyone that is not part of some weird faction here.
If it were not for my incredibly durable ego I would have given up even posting my builds here...but over time the peck-ers stopped trying to peck me into some rank in their file and I was able to enjoy a certain liberty to show off my work here without the usual banal and anal replies from the usual suspects.
I did not come here thinking I knew anything. I spent a good year researching the field, reading the posts by the best of the best (who have left BTW) and deciding that this odd hobby was exactly what I like to do. It was not like coming into some friendly open arms let me tell you...but the knowledge I gained was worth the intimidation of not understanding half of the abstruse mathematics.
That all has changed...oh it's the same bristly environment of talking heads...problem is the heads are simply regurgitating what they think they know. These Talking Heads are not the innovators, the testers, the developers, the designers...these talking heads are CONSUMERS whinging about their BRANDS. So what is the trade off for putting up with their attitudes? Is there some great knowledge to be had? I think not...it's more like watching an insipid soap opera.
What would bring back some juice here is to STFU and actually DO something. Show us something you've learned by experimentation...by trial and error...by making an error and correcting it...anything would be better than hearing the same crap over and over.
When the innovator is once again the focus of our interest the balance will be regained.
Thanks a lot MovieMan. I really think you have your heart in the right place...which is more than I can say for some of the people that call this place their home.
Last edited by CyberDruid; 09-21-2008 at 08:12 PM.
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