X48 Rampage Formula Preview.

[mikeyakame]

bad cpu is rare, except where the motherboard fries the cpu. that is fairly common, i've come across that more times than i can count on both hands.

[Vivi]

here what i did with this board!

its good
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=201537

[DaLiu]

Hi guys, i just got new memory for my rig, there are OCZ DDR2 PC2-9200 Flex II 4GB, the problem is i cant manage to take them more than 1080 Mhz, next pass it is 1130 Mhz but i get a lot of errors in Memtest86. I used exactly the settings provided by the OCZ stuff for this memory and my Rampage Formula.
By the way my fsb is 450 with multi 8 on my Q9450. Bios is the last version 0410.









Any advice how to get at least 1130 Mhz from this memory?

[DaLiu]

Looks like i just found out some strange information and im looking for some real explanation from OCZ stuff. This is how looks like a screenshot from some real OCZ2FXT11504GK posted on your forum by your stuff (first picture), and now check how looks like the code for my memory (second picture), the code is: OCZ2RPR10662G. I have some pictures with memory, the last 3 pictures are made by me with my phone camera, so basically i paid for OCZ FLEX 2 1150 Mhz and i got some Reaper memory at 1066 Mhz and they look like some Flex 2 and im wondering why they are not working more than 1080 Mhz?

[traveler]

have you tried manually setting the primary memory timings and vdimm correctly?

Thanks for your reply mikeyakame.

I finally flashed to the 0410 BIOS. Big changes in a good direction. Before with the 0407 BIOS I was getting lots and lots of errors on a pass of MemTest86+ with the GSkill RAM. Now I get about a dozen errors on a pass. But still, there should be zero errors when one runs MemTest86+.

My settings ATM are-

Ai Overclock Tuner ...............Manual
FSB freq ............................333
PCIE .................................101
DRAM freq ..........................DDR2 1066
DRAM command rate ............ 2N
DRAM Timing Control ..............Manual
CAS ................................... 5
RAS to CAS ......................... 5
RAS pre time ....................... 5
RAS ACT time ...................... 15

Ai Clock Twister .................... Lighter

CPU voltage ........................ 1.1375
NB voltage .......................... 1.37
DRAM voltage ...................... 2.1

All other items are on auto or default settings


I have not yet tried the OCZ Reaper RAM I have.


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Asus X48 Rampage Formula / Intel Q9450 / 2 x 2GB OCZ Reaper HPC PC2 8500 / VisionTek Radeon HD3870X2 OverClocked Edition /
Western Digital Raptor X Hard Drive / Two Western Digital Caviar RE2 WD5001ABYS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drives /
Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Elite Pro 7.1 / Creative Gigaworks S750 7.1 Speaker System /
Lian Li 343B cube case / PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Crossfire Edition

[traveler]

Oh, ...

I forgot to say ...

The failing address of the memory according to the MemTest86+ error list is always 00000000000. No matter which test; no matter what pattern; whether I used the OCZ RAM or the GSkill RAM ... the failing address would always be 00000000000.

Hope that gives a clue.



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Asus X48 Rampage Formula / Intel Q9450 / 2 x 2GB OCZ Reaper HPC PC2 8500 / VisionTek Radeon HD3870X2 OverClocked Edition /
Western Digital Raptor X Hard Drive / Two Western Digital Caviar RE2 WD5001ABYS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drives /
Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Elite Pro 7.1 / Creative Gigaworks S750 7.1 Speaker System /
Lian Li 343B cube case / PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Crossfire Edition

[flylow]

Oh, ...

I forgot to say ...

The failing address of the memory according to the MemTest86+ error list is always 00000000000. No matter which test; no matter what pattern; whether I used the OCZ RAM or the GSkill RAM ... the failing address would always be 00000000000.

Hope that gives a clue.

Did you try to disable USB legacy in the BIOS and check whether you still have those errors?

I hope this helps you, I have read some of your posts and know you have been jumping through hoops to get up and running. I had no problems with my Rampage Formula at all, except for being too poor to come up with the cash to buy everything all at once. I ended up with the G.Skill PC28000 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231145 simply to save money so I could finally get my system up and running. Going from a P4 3.2, Visiontek 850XT PE AGP to an E8600 with a Visiontek 4870 was quite a jump for me.

Good luck, hopefully all will come together and you will be up and running soon!

From:
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...Language=en-us

"Asus uses some of the system RAM to cache data for the code to handle legacy USB devices, while memtest is running some of that day may change or be moved by the BIOS, which in turn causes it to be different than when memtest is expecting to see hence the error. This isn't a real error though, the system has simply moved the data to a different part of RAM and re-pointed the memory address to that location, however memtest needs complete control of all the RAM to be accurate so it sees the change as corrupt data.

As AL said, disable legacy USB support (don't leave it on auto, disable it) while you run memtest. Once memtest has completed if you're all clear you can enable legacy USB again and go on with things. If legacy USB is disabled and you still get errors, well then you've got an issue and we'll help you solve it."

"It's just easier for most people to turn it off and test instead of running a few passes over a number of hours to see it fail because they forgot one of their devices was USB 1.1."

From:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/FORUMS/...=184503&page=5

"For everyone to know.
I had multiple errors with memtest86+, always at address '00000000000 - 0.0MB'.
I disabled USB Legacy in BIOS and the errors vanished.
It seems to be a known trick but I think its great to mention it again in this thread.
I run bios (0401) btw."

[traveler]

Did you try to disable USB legacy in the BIOS and check whether you still have those errors?

I hope this helps you, I have read some of your posts and know you have been jumping through hoops to get up and running. I had no problems with my Rampage Formula at all, except for being too poor to come up with the cash to buy everything all at once. I ended up with the G.Skill PC28000 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231145 simply to save money so I could finally get my system up and running. Going from a P4 3.2, Visiontek 850XT PE AGP to an E8600 with a Visiontek 4870 was quite a jump for me.

Good luck, hopefully all will come together and you will be up and running soon!

From:
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...Language=en-us

"Asus uses some of the system RAM to cache data for the code to handle legacy USB devices, while memtest is running some of that day may change or be moved by the BIOS, which in turn causes it to be different than when memtest is expecting to see hence the error. This isn't a real error though, the system has simply moved the data to a different part of RAM and re-pointed the memory address to that location, however memtest needs complete control of all the RAM to be accurate so it sees the change as corrupt data.

As AL said, disable legacy USB support (don't leave it on auto, disable it) while you run memtest. Once memtest has completed if you're all clear you can enable legacy USB again and go on with things. If legacy USB is disabled and you still get errors, well then you've got an issue and we'll help you solve it."

"It's just easier for most people to turn it off and test instead of running a few passes over a number of hours to see it fail because they forgot one of their devices was USB 1.1."

From:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/FORUMS/...=184503&page=5

"For everyone to know.
I had multiple errors with memtest86+, always at address '00000000000 - 0.0MB'.
I disabled USB Legacy in BIOS and the errors vanished.
It seems to be a known trick but I think its great to mention it again in this thread.
I run bios (0401) btw."

I owe you a six pack flylow!!!!!!! Thanks heaps Bud!!! Yours was the post that did it!!!!!

This was it: "....disable legacy USB support (don't leave it on auto, disable it) while you run memtest. Once memtest has completed if you're all clear you can enable legacy USB again and go on with things." Plus, of course, the explanation as to why.

I now have the OCZ Reaper PC2 8500 RAM in the slots. And I now keep turning down the voltage on the RAM, the voltage on the Northbridge, and the voltage on the CPU now ... And I now keep getting zero errors each time !!!!!!! I'm lovin' it!





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Asus X48 Rampage Formula / Intel Q9450 / 2 x 2GB OCZ Reaper HPC PC2 8500 / VisionTek Radeon HD3870X2 OverClocked Edition /
Western Digital Raptor X Hard Drive / Two Western Digital Caviar RE2 WD5001ABYS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drives /
Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Elite Pro 7.1 / Creative Gigaworks S750 7.1 Speaker System /
Lian Li 343B cube case / PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Crossfire Edition

[flylow]

I owe you a six pack flylow!!!!!!! Thanks heaps Bud!!! Yours was the post that did it!!!!!

This was it: "....disable legacy USB support (don't leave it on auto, disable it) while you run memtest. Once memtest has completed if you're all clear you can enable legacy USB again and go on with things." Plus, of course, the explanation as to why.

I now have the OCZ Reaper PC2 8500 RAM in the slots. And I now keep turning down the voltage on the RAM, the voltage on the Northbridge, and the voltage on the CPU now ... And I now keep getting zero errors each time !!!!!!! I'm lovin' it!

Awesome!! Glad it worked. Luckily I only had USB 2.0 devices running otherwise I would have been dealing with the same issue. Thank google, a search for "MemTest86 error 00000000000" provided the answer. I did not have clue one but definately will remember about USB 1.1 on Asus motherboards messing with memtest.

My system is not in a case yet, been running it on a table, still researching cases for next month. I just cannot quite squeeze it in my old case with the Radeon 4870. Then a new monitor in a another month or two. Somewhere in there I will probably buy some G.Skill or Mushkin PC2-8500 to replace my G.Skill PC2-8000. Still using my old Audigy 2 soundcard, sounds better than the almost soundcard that Asus gives with the Rampage Formula, IMO.

Anyway glad that you seem to finally be up and running. Have fun.

[Locutis]

Hello all, took a bit of time for my account to become active but have been following this thread for a while now. I have the RF paired up with an E8400, 2x2GB Gskill, and a 4870x2 and have been collecting the info from here before I tweak it.

One question though before I dive in. My wife is now in need of a new PC and I was thinking of dropping the 8400 into her PC and getting something else for the RF. What would you all recommend?

Thanks.

[003]

Q9550 or Q9650

[Vivi]

nothing wrong with another E8400 or a E8500 that go for cheap nowdays

[GAR]

Q9550 or Q9650

Q9650, i would LOVE to have a 9X multi on my Q9450.

[Zucker2k]

Hello all, took a bit of time for my account to become active but have been following this thread for a while now. I have the RF paired up with an E8400, 2x2GB Gskill, and a 4870x2 and have been collecting the info from here before I tweak it.

One question though before I dive in. My wife is now in need of a new PC and I was thinking of dropping the 8400 into her PC and getting something else for the RF. What would you all recommend?

Thanks.

That 4870x2 tells me you're a gamer; get an E8600 and get her to 4.5Ghz easy for your 24/7. Should give you some nice FPS boost.

[003]

Quads are better for most newer games, even if clocked lower than a dual.

[zlojack]

Quads are better for most newer games, even if clocked lower than a dual.

Based on what? (sorry for OT, but I'm interested in the reasoning)

[flylow]

Please spare us! There are a multitude of quad versus dual posts in most, if not all forums already. Intel is ahead of AMD at the time so we are spared that old argument. The Nividia versus ATI has died down, at least until the next product cycle. How about Ford versus Chevy? Or chocolate ice cream versus vanilla ice cream? Blondes versus brunettes? Beer versus whiskey (or Canadian whiskey versus Kentucky whiskey).

There must be something else to post about instead of dual versus quad...

[zlojack]

Please spare us! There are a multitude of quad versus dual posts in most, if not all forums already. Intel is ahead of AMD at the time so we are spared that old argument. The Nividia versus ATI has died down, at least until the next product cycle. How about Ford versus Chevy? Or chocolate ice cream versus vanilla ice cream? Blondes versus brunettes? Beer versus whiskey (or Canadian whiskey versus Kentucky whiskey).

There must be something else to post about instead of dual versus quad...

Yeah dude, but everone's got a theory these days!

[flylow]

Yeah dude, but everone's got a theory these days!

Sooner or late one must simply choose and move on, unless of course you have the bucks to try out both and decide for yourself. Down the road I plan on buying a quad just to see if there is much difference for what I do. But there are already so many posts about quad versus dual that it is pretty much pointless to bring it up again. Unless of course someone starts an "official" quad versus dual thread...

[zlojack]

Sooner or late one must simply choose and move on, unless of course you have the bucks to try out both and decide for yourself. Down the road I plan on buying a quad just to see if there is much difference for what I do. But there are already so many posts about quad versus dual that it is pretty much pointless to bring it up again. Unless of course some starts an "official" quad versus dual thread...

True enough.

TBH I've had too much wine.

[flylow]

True enough.

TBH I've had too much wine.

Be careful of overindulging in wine, worst hangovers I ever had were from wine drunks. Good Canadian Whiskey seems to be the beverage of choice for me.

[Zucker2k]

Quads are better for most newer games, even if clocked lower than a dual.

You need to be more specific. I'm not going to start a debate here. Unless the game is capable of using all four cores, EFFICIENTLY, it's no contest. Notice I was very specific in telling him what speficially he'll gain if he clocked a E8600 to 4.5Ghz. Even a quad clocked at 4Ghz is only good in synthetic benchmarks in terms of raw procesing power, nothing else. However a dual-core at 4.5 ghz while being easier on board components, also churns at faster clock cycles which is very good for all games. The higher overclock also translates into higher bus, faster ram reads, etc.

[Chodi]

You need to be more specific. I'm not going to start a debate here. Unless the game is capable of using all four cores, EFFICIENTLY, it's no contest. Notice I was very specific in telling him what speficially he'll gain if he clocked a E8600 to 4.5Ghz. Even a quad clocked at 4Ghz is only good in synthetic benchmarks in terms of raw procesing power, nothing else. However a dual-core at 4.5 ghz while being easier on board components, also churns at faster clock cycles which is very good for all games. The higher overclock also translates into higher bus, faster ram reads, etc.

I just went through this after reading threads on quad vs dual till my eyes bleed. I finally decided to get an E8600 to replace my old Q6600 last week. I easily overclocked it to 4.4gig without any extreme volts. It will go much farther but for 24/7 that's enough for me (440X10). I have a 4870X2 and game a lot. THE DIFFERENCE (READ THAT IMPROVEMENT) IN GAMING AND GENERAL PERFORMANCE WAS MASSIVE! You can read all the threads you want on this but my own experience in gaming is that its no contest. The overclocked E8600 with the 4870X2 makes my games fly. No substitute for personal experience. My Q6600 was at 3.3gig and can't come close to the performance in gaming of the overclocked E8600. Case closed for me.

[Zucker2k]

G.Skill 1066s with E8600:

[arisythila]

4 cores are better than 2, 8 cores are better than 4, 16 cores are better than 8.... I hope I don't have to go on.