AMD X2 6500+ coming

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apparently not. doesn't look like demolished here and that is just at 2.3... a black edition is meant to be clocked up. So it will beat the 6400+ .

According to your link, a dualcore K8 @3GHz is around 21% faster than a dualcore K10 @2.3GHz. The 3.2GHz should be 30% faster .

If we consider OC, then the 2.3GHz BE is on the bottom on the list of the good/cheap/energy efficient dualcore OC-ers.

AMD needs a 45nm "native"(no disabled cripled cores) dualcore to have a decent OC-er.

It actually doesn't look too bad.

It doesn't look bad for an office PC, but a 2.3GHz dualcore in 2H 2008 is a joke.

At 2.3ghz is slightly behind the 6000+

If 20% is slightly, then a 2Ghz Athlon64 X2 4000+ 2x1MB L2 is slightly behind the 2.3GHz K10.

but at around 3ghz it should beat a 3.5ghz K8 easily.

I doubt this. At 3GHz(with the NB&L3 OC-ed proportionaly ~ 2.2GHz) it should be slower or on pair with the K8 X2 @3.5GHz. Check the Phenom X4/X3 @3GHz benchmarks and compare them to a 3.5GHz K8 X2.

And your proof is where?

You don't need a hard proof to realize that. We've already seen how Phenom X3/X4 performs compared to Athlon64 X2, so Phenom X2 can only perform same or slower at same clock.

Anyway, if you want a hard proof, the link above in villa1n's post should give you a more clear image.