1month+HEhee+ Brutal 1.56volts+ CPUvid/NBvid on 9x50 using Water/ High end Air

[demonkevy666]

CPUvid first while using stock NBfreqency.. Once i find that than i Raise the NBfreqency ,,when it crashes or wont prime...I Raise the NBvid ,, My out come is 1.55v for both @3450 stable..Stock volts on mine would only get me 2400nb and 1.4volts 2500bn and 1.55v 2680 max @3450mhz



The HT volts should always stay 1.35v or lower( HT heatsink get kinda hot with no fan on it).. The HT only needs to raise some if the HT isnt stable..Again 250 is pretty good but the HT volts you ran was way too High!

Missing file could be Ram/Divider and or timing . The NB on the Mobo not the CPU should be around@ 1.31v or maybe lower depend on how many Gigs and Stick yor running..This Helps alot with Ram /CPU stability. Sometimes Even the wrong HT freqency in Bios may cause it even though you NB may be able to go pretty high...I always run the Ram at the lowest possiable speed and loose 5-5-5-18/ 2T or 5-6-6-18 @tuntill i have my CPU/NB tweaked.. Sometimes i even have to lower HT or NB speed to get that higher CPUclock

Heat are you using Air/water? if Air so the Nb volts i would use around 1.35/1.4 and TheNB may not go as high . You will need to adjust by what your temps allow.. Cooling is a big factor .. With Air i can run 3400mhz Max with 2500NB @1.55cpu and 1.39v Nb any more and it would start raising the temps..The NB will add heat quik the higher it goes.


50/50.. The Bioses i used from him Disable ALL TLB tweaks and has the Hexidecimal CPUvid/NBvid CPUfid/NBfids..they are still close to what they are in stock form.. Ive tested over 100 versions up to recent 728bios..When i ran the 9600BE it was Max @2550/2400 on this Mobo with Same Bios..I put the 9950 in and said what the F and booted it @ 3.2ghz with 1.31default volts for both CPU and NB2000... i used just the CPU Multi at 16x and 1066 ram divider all on Auto with TLB disable fix for the first boot.

Compared to stock bioses ,,His gives better speed and Voltage settings . Even with the 9600BE i still ran @ 270fsb on this Mobo . Again using same Bios and even Same DOMINATOR rams. With both cpu's i tweaked the HT the same.. The Higher i raised the FSB/HT i had to lower the HTmulti and NB multi.. @ 260 id use a HT and NB 10x multi to get 2600mhz on the 9950 and with the 9600BE i would use 8xmulti for 2400 @ 260// 7x @ 270

Kazgirl

Start off with CPUvid @ 1.55v record you temp stock clocks..

Then reboot and set NBvid to 1.34-1.35volts(this will be the CPU/NB).. Always Record temps .

Now with both voltages set "The compare the CPU temp to CPU/NB temp with both voltages) There should maybe be only a 2c diferance if that on Air. With My water there is no change..Always try to Clock CPU first using CPU multi if you have BE ..This will give you a ball park to aim for..Then give me a CPUZ and temp and well go from there.

Note: Try these settings for the MOBo's SB/NB HT volts this is what i run 24/7 "even when i had the 9600BE.".

Set Mobo Nb to 1.31volts if you plan to raise the HT.
Set the HTvolts or core to say 1.27- 1.31v .. Youshouldnt need any mor ehtan that.. Ht is usually good to 1.35v..

I have just stock heatsink on my rd780 and SB600 with just the Air in my case blowing across mobo.

Also maybe use Speed fan to monitor The mobo or CPU hW monitor...

The CPU factor is = to the goodness of your cooling.. better cooling better clocks...The Goal for Phenom 3.0 stable while kepping L3 performance up,, High NB is nice 2400-2600 will come with a little xtra heat ,, This is why i suggets starting with 1.35-1.4volts for the CPU/northbridge know as NBvid...

I knew what to expect ,, Some one had to push these things sooner or later.

My pet Phenom j/K i was like WTF howd that get there. He's back in the wild thanx to me..

promotion for the spyder system :P kol

1226 mhz ram with a phenom O_o wow never would think you could get that.

[charged3800z24]

My pet Phenom j/K i was like WTF howd that get there. He's back in the wild thanx to me..

Was it still alive?... That is freaking crazy.. the Spider platform lol...

[gOtVoltage]

Yes Very Alive ,, Fast too and fricken likes to jump at humans

I used a 8" fish net ( catch and release type of thing)...It kept running and jumping toward me...Now thats Phenominal for a little Buggr.

P.S Kaz,,
hows the icecream,,hahaa i feel for ya

[Titan7171]

The HT volts should always stay 1.35v or lower( HT heatsink get kinda hot with no fan on it).. The HT only needs to raise some if the HT isnt stable..Again 250 is pretty good but the HT volts you ran was way too High!

Missing file could be Ram/Divider and or timing . The NB on the Mobo not the CPU should be around@ 1.31v or maybe lower depend on how many Gigs and Stick yor running..This Helps alot with Ram /CPU stability. Sometimes Even the wrong HT freqency in Bios may cause it even though you NB may be able to go pretty high...I always run the Ram at the lowest possiable speed and loose 5-5-5-18/ 2T or 5-6-6-18 @tuntill i have my CPU/NB tweaked.. Sometimes i even have to lower HT or NB speed to get that higher CPUclock

Heat are you using Air/water? if Air so the Nb volts i would use around 1.35/1.4 and TheNB may not go as high . You will need to adjust by what your temps allow.. Cooling is a big factor .. With Air i can run 3400mhz Max with 2500NB @1.55cpu and 1.39v Nb any more and it would start raising the temps..The NB will add heat quik the higher it goes.

Im doing this from the bios are you doing your overclocking through AMD)D?? If so Ill give it a try as I dont see anything in the bios to raise NB voltage.

[gOtVoltage]

I adjust all my settings in BIOS...I have used AOD but AOD is just not for me..I cant get my self to trust it..Ive seen it set wrong Voltage before and sometimes it would enable low clocks or TLB when system boot into windows(Xp32Sp3)..

I prefer the old fashiond way

What Mobo/ Bios are you using? MSI
Most settings for NB(on CPU) = NBvid or you have to use HEXADECIMAL.

my NB(onCPU) starts HEX@(27) = 1.16v and ends HEX@(00) 1.55v

Now for the NB (On Mobo Cnipset) usually its called (CPU to NB/SBvolts) or Even (CPU to NBvolts) youll know when youve found it ,,Usually at @ 1.15volts (stock)this one i keep @ 1.31v(24/7 and Below 1.35V for 3.55+ which my mobo cant handle



UPDATE.......... TItan7171.........UPDATE...9//5//2008

I downloaded Manual E7376 v1.0 and it seems that the One Labled (NB Voltage is for your CPU) its default is 1.25v..
i will double check the V2 Bios (ITS the Same)..

This is the one that i slowly raise up with the CPUvcore .. Depending on cooling you may only be able to raise this to 1.4v before the heat sets in....Go slow and Keep the Volts dialed in where your always below the Max 60c ..I usually balance my systems to around 50c-56c MAX and thats it.

Set your HTvolts to 1.275v-1.31v to Above 250(this is the norm with all SB600 mobos )

Disable ALL SPREAD SPECTRUMS...it will limit your OC

[charged3800z24]

I just got my new 9950 BE.. but there was no Spider to go along with the system...LOL...My Gigabyte 790gx board is still in RMA process.. all I have is a 780g to test it on..I just flashed the bios on the Sapphire 780g and it reads CPU temp on the LED's.. shows 34*c on stock clocks...this board is not OC friendly.. although the new bios does have an AOD compatiblity option now.

[gOtVoltage]

I just got my new 9950 BE.. but there was no Spider to go along with the system...LOL...My Gigabyte 790gx board is still in RMA process.. all I have is a 780g to test it on..I just flashed the bios on the Sapphire 780g and it reads CPU temp on the LED's.. shows 34*c on stock clocks...this board is not OC friendly.. although the new bios does have an AOD compatiblity option now.

I alway say "Let me know how it goes..Just Oc in small steps,, if things seem to heat up or go scewy work backwords"

Stock Clocks with default volts and HEATSINK thats about right 28-36c depending on Ambiant room temp...Id say even with limited Bios Options with just the Multi's if there available and being able to set ram you should be able to sqeeze a decent OC..

I cant believe saphire has no owners manual online.....I was gonna look at your bios settings

[Eversor]

Trust me i almost gave in to Intel when i had a low Clocking 9600BE after being with AMD since they were born.

Well, I gave into Intel, when core 2 came along. I was "happy" with a Manchester X2 3800+@2.8GHz, watercooled stable 24/7. The core 2 temptation was enourmous, so I gave in - BIG MISTAKE.
I couldn't find a damn board that would overclock easily and stable and that ran Linux well. Damn you Intel.

Two years later, I'm back to a 90nm X2, 5200+ 2MB L2 65w @ 3GHz, and I couldn't be happier, even the first board I tried works flawlessly.
Intel CPUs and chipsets are too troublesome to do anything useful. Even though I have mostly what I had before I traded, I am delighted with the rig, everything just works, albeit a bit slower, that's for sure. But, hey, I haven't felt the need to put some money on a Phenom X4 and there are still 250MHz left in this CPU, waiting for WC.

I won't go back to Intel stuff anytime soon... if ever.

EDIT: BTW, congrats on the awsome OC on that SB600. But please... grab something with 8 phases for it :|

[crazydiamond]

i just got a 9850 and the biostar 790gx powered by antec bp550 plus 550w psu... i had it running 2.8-3.0 on stock everything just bumping multi up, but any higher and it would reboot during windows loading. i set the multi to 16 for 3.2 with 1.4vcore and it went into windows and about 5 minutes into prime flashed a quick blue screen and restarted so i bumped vcore to 1.43 and this time it primed for about 10 minutes and same thing, quick blue screen and it reboots. so i bump vcore to 1.47 and it primes for awhile, temps never over 61c and about 20 minutes in the pc just shuts off with no sound or smoke or anything, and now will not turn on at all... i tried resetting cmos, popped battery out, etc. and get nothing when i try to power it on. you guys think this sounds like mobo, cpu, psu??

[demonkevy666]

i just got a 9850 and the biostar 790gx powered by antec bp550 plus 550w psu... i had it running 2.8-3.0 on stock everything just bumping multi up, but any higher and it would reboot during windows loading. i set the multi to 16 for 3.2 with 1.4vcore and it went into windows and about 5 minutes into prime flashed a quick blue screen and restarted so i bumped vcore to 1.43 and this time it primed for about 10 minutes and same thing, quick blue screen and it reboots. so i bump vcore to 1.47 and it primes for awhile, temps never over 61c and about 20 minutes in the pc just shuts off with no sound or smoke or anything, and now will not turn on at all... i tried resetting cmos, popped battery out, etc. and get nothing when i try to power it on. you guys think this sounds like mobo, cpu, psu??

550 watts phenom needs more power thy're power hogs lol

650 watts would minim to be save.

what video card/IGP are you running ?

[Titan7171]

i just got a 9850 and the biostar 790gx powered by antec bp550 plus 550w psu... i had it running 2.8-3.0 on stock everything just bumping multi up, but any higher and it would reboot during windows loading. i set the multi to 16 for 3.2 with 1.4vcore and it went into windows and about 5 minutes into prime flashed a quick blue screen and restarted so i bumped vcore to 1.43 and this time it primed for about 10 minutes and same thing, quick blue screen and it reboots. so i bump vcore to 1.47 and it primes for awhile, temps never over 61c and about 20 minutes in the pc just shuts off with no sound or smoke or anything, and now will not turn on at all... i tried resetting cmos, popped battery out, etc. and get nothing when i try to power it on. you guys think this sounds like mobo, cpu, psu??

well is the system powering on but the screen stays black?? or is the system not powering on at all?? if it doesnt power on at all Id say PSU if the system starts up but the screen stays off then I say mobo or cpu.....Id say mobo before cpu though as 1.4v isnt really that high. just from my own experience......I have yet to burn out a cpu in 8 years of overclocking.....and I go pretty high on voltages for the cpu.

[crazydiamond]

i got a stock 9800gt in there, and when i try to turn it on, nothing happens at all, no fans, lights, hd, anything... i wouldnt think that 1.47 vcore would burn out the cpu or fry the mobo, so im leanin toward psu too

[Daveburt714]

i got a stock 9800gt in there, and when i try to turn it on, nothing happens at all, no fans, lights, hd, anything... i wouldnt think that 1.47 vcore would burn out the cpu or fry the mobo, so im leanin toward psu too

Try using just the IGP, if everything works then your probably right in your assumption that it's the PSU...

gOtVoltage: I'm a wimp man... I'm just curious as to how well your CPU clocked at sane voltages....

[charged3800z24]

FOR the PSU

Not to make anyone sound stupid. but is the switch in the on position on the back of the PSU?...or when you first hit power.. see if the fan twitches.. if so you might have a bad CAP on the MAIN..or if completely dead and not under warranty.. check the internal fuse,..also you can disconnect thr PSU from the board while holding the 24pin connector with the snap up, and looking at the top row left to right, short the 3rd and 4th pins together, this will power the PSU on.

[FlanK3r]

nice, NB MHz are cool !

[gOtVoltage]

Try using just the IGP, if everything works then your probably right in your assumption that it's the PSU...

gOtVoltage: I'm a wimp man... I'm just curious as to how well your CPU clocked at sane voltages....

@Crazy ,, @Daveburt714....Unplug the PSU and the 24pin and 4pin from mobo remove bat and clear cmos for like 30seconds then put bat back in andplug every thing back in to boot...

Hopefully you rrig will fire up...It does sound like PSU...

worst case You can even try reseating the CPU in your Zif socket as well..Ive seen where bad contact in the Zif can cause No boot but even then the Mobo should do something...

P.s. Good PSU tip,, Charged


Note:CPu@ stock VID 1.31v compared to when i run high Volts

3.2ghz stable with default volts and 3.3ghz stable with 1.37v and 3.4ghz with 1.45v on CPUvdim =Vcore.. NB @default 1.25v...

@3450+ with 2600+NB i run 1.55volts for CPU and NB on CPU..ATM24/7.. With Summer and no AC running with Ambiant room temp over 27c/80f.. i will run 3.415ghz//2480mhz with 1.55v for both. My IDLE will be 30c and @load//56c...

Heat is your mian factor with Volts and stability..It all depends on the cooling you run...I still say 3.3/3.4 with 2300nb should be great with something like Zalman 9700 ...or a single tripple Rad 26c/28c ambiants..

[HondaGuy]

Nice set up gOtVoltage., what you think of these settings for ram.....

[FlanK3r]

try Cinebench

[charged3800z24]

I alway say "Let me know how it goes..Just Oc in small steps,, if things seem to heat up or go scewy work backwords"

Stock Clocks with default volts and HEATSINK thats about right 28-36c depending on Ambiant room temp...Id say even with limited Bios Options with just the Multi's if there available and being able to set ram you should be able to sqeeze a decent OC..

I cant believe saphire has no owners manual online.....I was gonna look at your bios settings

Sapphire 780g board and 9950 -- 3.1ghz at 1.36 so far. PWM is cool to the touch... CPU is 36*c with Freezer 64 pro ...

Edit: I can also adjust all voltages now.. this new bios had the AOD setting and it allows better timing control and I can actually run 1066mhz 5-5-5-15 with my ram now. And it is running smooth...

[msimax]

hondaguy why your read scores so low?

[HondaGuy]

Dont know why...What should it be around?...Other one was Unganged...

Here is Ganged

[gOtVoltage]

Dont know why...What should it be around?...Other one was Unganged...

Here is Ganged

Thats more like it... 3.2ghz and your cranking that ram..

@ 3450//2600 my best has been 22.4's @ 1M...

You are running like 1237mhz compared to my 1100mhz ...Ram makes all the diferance too..I wish we could run DDR3 with @ least 7-7-7-18 timing but i dont think they would register on AM2+mobos because of the jdec value..

Imagine that thing @3.4ghz with high NB i have a feeling youll be pushing 21's with the 1200mhz ...I think Supi scales kinda funny on pHenom ,, seems like these things like high Freqency ram with 5 or 6 timing period! Havnt seen much for good 4 timing scrores even @ 1T.

The best i could sqeeze on my Memory Read 9600 and L1 and L3 is 10000 so far@ 1100mhz Ram..Your doing exceptionally well

[HondaGuy]

Right now NB is @ 2300.. still pushing my rig......


Frank3r:

[HondaGuy]

gOtVoltage:
Hows NB @ 2.530 stable

[gOtVoltage]

WOW ,, it takes me 3.4/3.45ghz to get those numbers with my ram @1140mhz


Is there a nother CPUmulti that lets you use Ram@ 1200mhz but closer to 3.4ghz with 2400/2500nb? I know each mobo is not the same ,, Going by your Everest running at that 3.3ghz you should be able to get 3.4ghz CPU/2500 NB with keeping Ram around 1200mhz..This will give you the same or better performance Ltency wise with all Caches Read/write times. The trick is finding that majic Multi


Phenoms like 210-230 htt with 12.5 or higher Cpu xmulti while using 800/1066 setting.. Ive tried low lat 4-4-4-12 T1 and 3-3-3-T1 @ 400//533//667 and the Overall Max is only around 3.3/3.35ghz .It seems that the more the IMC is pushed with high NB and LOW Latency Ram the Harder it gets to find a sweet spot,,Especially when running GANGED....

Ive Noticed some systems will clock higher using UNGANGED with High Freqency ram even though SuperPii will show slightly High Latency..Its still fast because of freqency cycles of Ram and CPUclocks. You see this even more so when running mutiple apps vs ganged.

.Hmm how does a 15x multi run on that Mobo? Funny 9850/9950 kinda like the Full multis instead of halfs for HIGH CPU/NB it seems ..

16 x 214 = 3424

15 x 227 = 3405

(14.5x229 = 3320)...this will lower ram 10mhz and should keep the Nb stable ..You may need 1.48/1.5v for CPU though.

14 x 244 = 3416

13 x 262 = 3406



The x15 multi will keep your htt/fsb between 220-240 ,should be able to run about the same or closer to 2600NB and Ht wont move much.