Well after testing up to 1.54v on the ht and nb its still a no go I got it to boot at 250 but I get a windows error "missing file" messege. The only thing I can think of is its my memory.....but it ran at 270-to 280? I dont know what changes it goes through using Phenom? and the next problem is temps....it was pretty hot here and I had the AC off I was idling at 42c right off the bat so for now Im still where I am.