evil's dream world

[mr2sw21]

Maxwell Render

is that just a render program or it is a model making program? By the way it looks beautiful.

[evil-98]

Maxwell Render

is that just a render program or it is a model making program? By the way it looks beautiful.

i think you answered that for yourself

its solely a rendering software

[RockfordFosgate]

How do you do that? I dont known anything about rendering but ı want to learn

[orclev]

A modeling program is used for generating the polygons and such, as well as assigning textures to various points. That data is then fed into a rendering program that does a whole lot of fancy math and calculation to turn that raw data into the gorgeous images Evil is posting. The details of how exactly ray tracing works are a bit complicated to go into here. For a light-hearted take on the technology, there are open source programs out there that will let you build using virtual lego blocks, and then you can feed those files into one of several rendering applications. There are a number of fairly good open source ones available, and a finished rendering of various lego models can look good enough it's hard to tell they're not pictures.

Edit: As an aside, a lot of modeling programs include a renderer, but generally you get a superior quality render out of a specialized rendering program. It's also important to point out that a good quality render can take quite a while, as Evil pointed out, the ones he's posting are 7+ hour renders.

Edit 2: See here for lego modeling software. For rendering search for a program called povray or POV-Ray.

Edit 3: POV-Ray here.

[Koen]

Very nice rendering. Im learning NX currently and there is something like detailed (visible) thread. I dont know if there's a similar option in Inventor, but making "real" threads would add a lot to realism of your renders.
Edit: Have you tried to make the same rendering without dof? Its a nice addition but just for the sake of testing... because 7h is quite a lot of time for such scene, but then dof effect takes huuuuge amounts of time if you want to have good quality.

[evil-98]

How do you do that? I dont known anything about rendering but ı want to learn

orclev explained it pretty well, but rendering is just a term generally meaning
the creating of an image, whether it be with markers, photoshop, or in 3D.
in my case i do alot of 3D rendering so the tools apply differently, thats a whole
nother story.

if you want to learn about rendering, you should look into 3D as a whole,
www.3dtotal.com is a great site, the community over there is pretty nice
i use to go there. also www.cgsociety.com or cgtalk.com

A modeling program is used for generating the polygons and such, as well as assigning textures to various points. That data is then fed into a rendering program that does a whole lot of fancy math and calculation to turn that raw data into the gorgeous images Evil is posting. The details of how exactly ray tracing works are a bit complicated to go into here. For a light-hearted take on the technology, there are open source programs out there that will let you build using virtual lego blocks, and then you can feed those files into one of several rendering applications. There are a number of fairly good open source ones available, and a finished rendering of various lego models can look good enough it's hard to tell they're not pictures.

Edit: As an aside, a lot of modeling programs include a renderer, but generally you get a superior quality render out of a specialized rendering program. It's also important to point out that a good quality render can take quite a while, as Evil pointed out, the ones he's posting are 7+ hour renders.

Edit 2: See here for lego modeling software. For rendering search for a program called povray or POV-Ray.

Very nice rendering. Im learning NX currently and there is something like detailed (visible) thread. I dont know if there's a similar option in Inventor, but making "real" threads would add a lot to realism of your renders.

there isnt a real thread option, but i can make them just need to know the pitch and such

[RockfordFosgate]

@orclev & @evil-98

Thanks a lot for informations

[NaeKuh]

evil your rendering job is seriously top notch.

[Bojamijams]

I remember back in the day when I was working with 3ds Max that Mental Ray was 'the sheet' in terms of rendering.. is that still any good?

[Arni]

LOVE it. You should make a calendar

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Yours renders ftw

[evil-98]

@orclev & @evil-98

Thanks a lot for informations

more then welcome

evil your rendering job is seriously top notch.

thanks

I remember back in the day when I was working with 3ds Max that Mental Ray was 'the sheet' in terms of rendering.. is that still any good?

mental ray is awesome, i use it often depending on the job

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Yours renders ftw

as soon as i get a bunch of renders out i can get them outputed into calanders

might have something soon just a test but yea

[inCore]

Wait what, this isn't a photograph?

But seriously, superb, simply superb.

[orclev]

Wait what, this isn't a photograph?

But seriously, superb, simply superb.

Hmm, looks photoshoped to me.

It's funny how often Evils threads get a post something along the lines of:

Random Guy: "Wow, that's awsome, will you sell me one of those?"
Evil-98: "Well, maybe, as soon as I actually work out how to make them, these are just renders."
Random Guy: "These aren't photos?"

[evil-98]

Wait what, this isn't a photograph?

But seriously, superb, simply superb.

lets just say its a photo

[71 (Bryan)]

holy man, you got some sick ass talent
i tried to get into the 3d biz and graph design but im too impatient

[evil-98]

holy man, you got some sick ass talent
i tried to get into the 3d biz and graph design but im too impatient

yea needs alot of patience... "sits in front of computer for 8hr waiting it render to find a mistake..."

anyways

successful threads?

[Bobly]

Except for the Depth of Field

[orclev]

yea needs alot of patience... "sits in front of computer for 8hr waiting it render to find a mistake..."

anyways

successful threads?

Hmm... that one with my suggestion of a acetel/acrylic top? If so, think you could do a "night" render with the acrylic illuminated by some embedded blue lights.

[evil-98]

Except for the Depth of Field

macro shots what do you expect?

[Giannis86]

i really like the look of that block..you got some skills xD

[Koen]

You dont need dof for test renders, and by fine tuning the parameters, you can go down to 1h per test render or there's something wrong with maxwell.
Nice threads

[evil-98]

Hmm... that one with my suggestion of a acetel/acrylic top? If so, think you could do a "night" render with the acrylic illuminated by some embedded blue lights.

no, im still playing with materials, in that render the mid is stainless steel brushed.

ill play with night shots and LEDs, it usually takes 12+ to get a clear render so i need to optimize something

You dont need dof for test renders, and by fine tuning the parameters, you can go down to 1h per test render or there's something wrong with maxwell.
Nice threads

i see youve never used maxwell before. lol

maxwell is a light simulator, every thing about the render system is based on a unbias physical system. the render is treated like a picture from a camera, you cant say no dof, but i can adjust the aperture.

speed is not the issue, its the sample level, as you can see this render is quite noisy. its a 12+ min render

[Koen]

Yes, I've "only" worked with various versions of brazil, vray and mentalray (sticked to the last one) so I'm comparing your results with them (at the end of the day, its the final effect that counts, no matter how the renderer works). From I've read, maxwell is interesting, might try it some day Im just too busy with modelling all the time
If the last render took 12 minutes then its ok, you said 8 hours witch confused me.

[NaeKuh]

Hmm, looks photoshoped to me.

It's funny how often Evils threads get a post something along the lines of:

Random Guy: "Wow, that's awsome, will you sell me one of those?"
Evil-98: "Well, maybe, as soon as I actually work out how to make them, these are just renders."
Random Guy: "These aren't photos?"

Followed my me going:

Motion to Ban!

[evil-98]

Yes, I've "only" worked with various versions of brazil, vray and mentalray (sticked to the last one) so I'm comparing your results with them (at the end of the day, its the final effect that counts, no matter how the renderer works). From I've read, maxwell is interesting, might try it some day Im just too busy with modelling all the time
If the last render took 12 minutes then its ok, you said 8 hours witch confused me.

the thing about 8hr was a joke, you should give maxwell a try they have a demo version which is good to learn from.

Followed my me going:

Motion to Ban!

well atleast it took a little longer before you did that this time