yes i know i listened to your arguments but i have a 9750.. and that way i cannot overclock the cpu without ht ref clock.

perhaps i should have bought an 9850.. but.. that f**in 9750 just clocks too good!!

and i'm going through growing pains as well.. campbell, what should i say.. i believe in amd and thats not their AND not dfi's fault. the pcie clock i should not have upped it was i believe.. that phenom i have is one of the newer ones that can stand high ht i'm convinced.. thats just normal progression of the process..