"ASUS P5Q Deluxe discussion".

[jVIDIA]

how are those temps being measured? i went ahead and set pll to 1.52, I had it set to 1.50 i hope i was pushing 1.8v thru this 8500 lol

Rattle, it's not temps it's voltages

My overvoltage table was made with a digital multimeter.

I have got mine to pass 1133mhz, PL8/Strong, SRC Enabled, Mem OC Charger enabled, 1.96v in bios.

What are your other voltage settings please ?

I can't put anything diferent than lighter at 1130 @ PL=8

[PortCitySlim]

What are your other voltage settings please ?

I can't put anything diferent than lighter at 1130 @ PL=8

SRC Enabled, MemOC Enabled, Read training is Auto
1.26NB
1.32FSBv
1.96 RAMv

CPU is 8x425
1.41vcore
1.54 PLL

Edit: Those settings just passed PL7/light with Pull Ins disabled. Everest, Read 9100mb/s 54.9ns. Better then what i got on PL8/Strong with pull ins(see top post this page). Since PL7/Moderate failed the only thing I got left to do is test with Pull ins enabled on PL7/Light

[bigcesar]

hello

i have a problem mi motherboard no pass 460 stable in windows

the voltage i use: vcore 1.35, nb 1.5 dram 2.2
load line calibration enable

i have E8400 with OCZ reaper 9600

help me

[Mumid]

Well there have been several users that had about the same findings as Jvidia... there was one report that with the last bios the ram overvolted less

This could be true, on 1103 bios I had to up my mem one notch to get it blend stable, all though i dont have a DMM to verify that the overvolt is less

[Leeghoofd]

hello

i have a problem mi motherboard no pass 460 stable in windows

the voltage i use: vcore 1.35, nb 1.5 dram 2.2
load line calibration enable

i have E8400 with OCZ reaper 9600

help me

We need more info mate, full hardwarelist plz and fill in the template and post back plz... we don't even what speed you are going after

Template here :

P5QDlx Template

[bigcesar]

oh thanks...

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting: AUTO
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 460
PCI-E Frequency: AUTO
DRAM Frequency: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: AUTO

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: AUTO
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: AUTO
DRAM RAS# Precharge: AUTO
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: AUTO
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information :

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information :

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO
Common Performance Level [5]
Pull-In of CHA PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH4: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH4: DISABLED

CPU Voltage: 1.4
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage:1.9
FSB Termination Voltage: AUTO
DRAM Voltage: 2.2
NB Voltage: 1.5
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Load Line Calibration: ENABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
NB Clock Skew : Normal

Advance CPU Settings
ALL DISABLED

[Alex-Ro]

Nb voltage wwaay too much,try 1.3

[Leeghoofd]

oh thanks...

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 500
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1002
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: MANUAL

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information :

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information :

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO
Common Performance Level [5]
Pull-In of CHA PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH4: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH4: DISABLED

CPU Voltage: 1.4
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage:1.6
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.26
DRAM Voltage: 2.2
NB Voltage: 1.3
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Load Line Calibration: ENABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO

Advance CPU Settings
ALL DISABLED

NB Voltage is way high mate, PLL 1.9 are you mad ? FSB Term on AUTO = way overkill... try my above settings first... see if you can get her stable at 4Ghz with 500FSB... How much volt you will need for ya CPU is CPU dependant... but 1.4 should be easily doable... if it posts and gets into windows yet craps out after some time it might be required to tweak the GTL's...once you get it stable try to go lower on PLL voltage and Vcore... then NB voltage (I can do 500FSB at 1.26Nb voltage with 4gb of ram)

If it's stable try to get the ram up to 1200Mhz, note that the rams are overvolted... 2.2 is around 2.28 actually... with 500FSB/1000Mhz ram PL 10 is possible, with 500FSB and 1200Mhz ram PL 8 might be possible... all depending on ya rams and other hardware... Clock twister and co can also be boosted but try to get 500FSB first...

Good bios is 1103 for me, no issues (till now)

Keep us posted what gives...

[bigcesar]

NB Voltage is way high mate, PLL 1.9 are you mad ? FSB Term on AUTO = way overkill... try my above settings first... see if you can get her stable at 4Ghz with 500FSB... How much volt you will need for ya CPU is CPU dependant... but 1.4 should be easily doable... if it posts and gets into windows yet craps out after some time it might be required to tweak the GTL's...once you get it stable try to go lower on PLL voltage and Vcore... then NB voltage (I can do 500FSB at 1.26Nb voltage with 4gb of ram)

If it's stable try to get the ram up to 1200Mhz, note that the rams are overvolted... 2.2 is around 2.28 actually... with 500FSB/1000Mhz ram PL 10 is possible, with 500FSB and 1200Mhz ram PL 8 might be possible... all depending on ya rams and other hardware... Clock twister and co can also be boosted but try to get 500FSB first...

Good bios is 1103 for me, no issues (till now)

Keep us posted what gives...

thanks very very much!!!



very nice configuration thank
i happy

[Leeghoofd]

Try to run the rams at their foreseen speed mate, 1200mhz now... keep us posted if it remains stable... if stable then mess first with static read control to enabled... this for me brings the most boost in ram... next up is PL level ( transaction booster ) try 10 and test, if stable go 9... and keep them reapers cooled !!!

And maybe you can still go a bit lower on CPU Vcore and CPU PLL voltage (try eg 1.56)

[bigcesar]

my new results:



thanks leeghoofd...only up vcore 1.45

temp 40 full super pi is good??

[Leeghoofd]

Cesar, enable static read control... test stability, chech with MemSet ya PL level plz, if it's still on auto in the bios (it's prolly 13) try eg 11 or even 10... I would run 4ghz daily mate and try to go as low as possible on the Vcore... you get the best performance on these mobo's using a divider so not 1:1 runs...

[truehighroller]

Well I figured out that my Q9450 is fine thank god but, I have two bad BIOS chips. I am currently able to run my Q9450 which I am on right now, on the 0704 bios version with the one chip I have left but, I can not get it to work with the 1102 or the 1103. Asus said they would send me two new chips so. I am goin to get them on their way Monday I guess. It is weird how I can't get the newer BIOSes to work.

[Martin.v.r]

ASUS have removed bios 1103

[jVIDIA]

2nd time a bios is removed ..... OMG.

[truehighroller]

ASUS have removed bios 1103

I wonder if it is because of me LMAO.

[jVIDIA]

why?

[truehighroller]

You must not have seen all the issues I have been having. Ok I can't take all the credit obviously but, there must have been alot of people having issues with it.

[Kartoff]

Interesting but i dont have any problems with 1103... For me this is the best BIOS for P5Q Deluxe ever and with it i can do much more than any other version... I do impossible things such as my E8400 OC-ed to 4,34 GHz, who wont to go any furter than 3600 MHz before with any BIOS, happened ONLY with 1103 and i am happy with this So maybe the point is why BIOS-es do different things on same boards

[waynetu]

but 1103 still on there ftp not like 1003.

[bigcesar]

my best result:




I think reinstalare windows that data are corrupted ...
core temp and realtemp give me bad data temp...the asus probe: 30 idle 40 full is this well?

[BeastNotro]

I have a Q6600 Vid is 1.2875

What do i need to do in order to push it stable @ 3.6ghz.

Cooler is Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme, I just lapped it tonight and applied new AS5 paste in a line on CPU as per instructions on Artic Silver site.

I have a P5Q Deluxe mobo ... Bios Is 1103 The offical one.

Ram is G.Skill DDR2 DDR2_SDRAM 1000mhz 2 x 2GB = 4GB

PSU is 650w thermaltake toughpower

Video Card 1 x HIS 4850

Bascially does anyone have a template for this mobo and CPU combination fo what to try or use for a stable 3.6ghz .... yeah i know not all cpu's are the same and such.

Now what about this BIOS 1103 official?

[Big.Wayne]

How much voltage does your boards need for 500 fsb stability on wolfdales?Mine needs 1.32 for 500 and 1.38 for 525

1.26 here mate for 500FSB and 1.36 for 600FSB benches... but it depends heavily on the CPU too... with my other E8400 I need about 0.02 less... but that CPU needs more FSB Term voltage and more Vcore... this is why it's so hard to give some settings to anyone... CPU (quad, dual core,...), Mobo , Ram amount, FSB, Ram speed used,... all these things matter...

What is this Voltage you guys are referring to please?

[BeastNotro]

What is this Voltage you guys are referring to please?

They are refering to the Vcore used for ocing high FSB on the Intel E8400 Dual Core.

[Leeghoofd]

I have a Q6600 Vid is 1.2875

What do i need to do in order to push it stable @ 3.6ghz.

Bascially does anyone have a template for this mobo and CPU combination fo what to try or use for a stable 3.6ghz .... yeah i know not all cpu's are the same and such.

Now what about this BIOS 1103 official?

ASUS P5Q DLX Template :

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting: 9
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 400
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1000
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: MANUAL

1st Information : 

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information :

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information :

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO

CPU Voltage: 1.5
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.6
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.4
DRAM Voltage: 1.92
NB Voltage: 1.28
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: Manual
CPU VID: Default
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled 

This should give a good starting point mate, all depends a lot on ya CPU... maybe it can run with less Vcore, maybe it requires 1.55, it's a mix really of Vcore, GTL, PLL voltages... good luck

What is this Voltage you guys are referring to please?

NB Voltage mate

They are refering to the Vcore used for ocing high FSB on the Intel E8400 Dual Core.

NB voltage sir