Nehalem-EP......BLOOMFIELD

[Hornet331]

I'll run the benches tomorrow at stock speed of 3000mhz
These are 80w E5450's..OEM's not Es's..
Board is a SM X7DWA-N
PCP+C 750w Silencer
4x1 gig DDR2-800 kingston HyperX FBDimms
Air cooled with my own cooling mix
single 36 gig raptor

im waiting for those numbers, if you dont mind i'll add them to the charts.

I would have to disagree. I feel its a very relevant comparison. Especially if you have a thresh-hold of performance, your server needs to meet, as a company that is useful to know. And then it really does come down to price/perf, a 1p intel server vs a 2p amd server with 8 cores theoretically, a comparison between the two is very relevant. Of course google and the like just want max performance, but small business, that have 1 or 2 servers, with specific performance requirements, the dollars and cents of performance vs operating costs on the hair thin margins most web based business operates on, this is a big deal. It will be a real comparison, once nehalem does start shipping, and from what those graphs say... nehalem seems pretty damn efficient, in that regard. So I m not sure how trying to create a realworld comparison as to what will exist in the marketplace is Fanboyism.. I like seeing those numbers to be honest, I know how intel performs against itself :P

good point, but we dont know how intel gona price gainestown, and it seems that if there is a 2,4ghz version it will be priced according to amd offer, with preium price for the higher clocked versions.

Please explain to me the "rules of comparison". I were not aware that I broke your laws of comparing two products. I did not know that if a product were bought on ebay, or was an ES (not released yet) it invalidated the entire comparison. If that rule applies. XS mods need to get their fingers out and moderate all those comparisons we see of new unreleased products. I did not know comparing one cpu setup with a two cpu setup were not allowed either. How would you know the benefits and drawbacks of one cpu system vs a two cpu system if those comparisons were not done?

the comparrison is not invalid, but it makes no sense to compare them, cause everyone knows that 8 physical cores are faster then 8 logical cores (4 physical with HT)

In every other forum in the internet a comparison of a coming product with products that is out today would be welcomed, even appreciated, but not on XS. Here you get ridiculed by threadcrappers with the mods blessing, wich IMO shouts out where the closet stands. Pardon my bad english, hoping readers understand. That you classify comparing an AMD setup with an Intel setup as threadcrapping is beyond me.

what, i dont know what forum you are browsing, but xs still welcomes reviews of upcoming hardware.

Wonder what the comment would have been like if I compared the nehalem benches with another Intel system like MM is gonna do? Don't think you would have complained as much, probably would have been busy wtf qft bbq'ing all over the place in hope of getting a kind word from one of your heroes.

maybe that has something to do that mm wouldn't try to compare a single socket system to a dualsocket system, if he would try to compare his harpertown rig to bloomfield, im sure he would earn the same criticism )nothing against you mm )

I bought a dual socket system on ebay, and chose AMD because it was cheap, and I find K10 more fun to play with than Core2 and it's FSB. Just as Nehalem will be more fun to play with because of it's advanced arcitechture.

man everytime i hear this argument i cant help myself, i have to grin... what is so fun on tweaking a system for hours to gain next to nothing?
I have nothing against tweaking, but when it gets excessive and the results are rather weak its not my thing.
I take the "simple and not funny" fsb system every time over the "complex and funny" HT K10 system anyday.

I really hope that ocing doen't get more complicated with nehalem, i dont want to fiedle around for hours to just get some basic overclocking resulst, but if i hunt for max performance i welcome those options.