"ASUS P5Q Deluxe discussion".

[Cob]

I try to push q9450 on P5Q (0703 BIOS) and see that the prime is only stable if I set Vcore high.

PLL, VTT do not influence stability at all that I want on particular FSB
I tried PLL 1.52-1.6 and VTT 1.22-1.38

The wall I reach is 470FSB on Vcore=1.4 LLC=on (the windows loads on 485, but prime is not stabile)
Some other stable FSBs:
440 on Vcore=1.3 LLC=on
450 on Vcore=1.36 LLC=on
460 on Vcore=1.38 LLC=on

What can I do to go above 470????? I think Vcore=1.4 is already too high ……

Raise your Northbridge volts.

[Cob]

I got the new bios for the p5q-e and the voltage damper option works (in the old bios I didn't notice I had it). It even raises the vcore a bit under load (don't know how safe this is, but it's still lower than what I set in bios).

Does anyone know how can I start the computer with a usb flash drive stuck in, without the mb trying to boot from it (I get an error and I have to restart without the "stick" in)?

Change the hard drive boot order in the BIOS so that it boots off the first hard drive and not the USB drive.

[TI66ER]

What i do is only have 1 boot device,my raid setup,and use F8 if i want to boot something else.

[Tirade]

AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 9
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
FSB Frequency: 450
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1081Mhz
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information :

3rd Information :

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Disabled
AI Clock Twister: Lighter
AI Transaction Booster: Manual
Common Performance Level [10]

CPU Voltage: 1.34375
CPU GTL Voltage Reference: AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.22
DRAM Voltage: 2.12
NB Voltage: 1.22
SBridge Voltage: Auto
PCIE SATA Voltage: Auto

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto


Been taking your advice in this thread and here is where I am right now. P5Q-Pro 0901 Bios, E8400

9X450 100% Stable RAM is at 5/4 540MHZ

Whenever I drop ratio to 7-8 and set RAM to 500MHZ and try 1/1 I get errors in Windows.

Should I be happy with 4050mhz running 5/4 DDR2-1081 and just try to start working on memory timings or should I try to get the higher FSB?

Im not sure what higher FSB will get for me if RAM is already running 1081mhz at decent settings.

I am REALLY happy with my overclock so far.

[yenclas]

Only thing I see is to mess with the GTL voltages, but think you gotta get another CPU that needs less volts... most CPU's need a whole lotta extra volts over a certain speed for a few hundred Mhz more... if you need already 1.36 at 3.6ghz I think it's better to leave it at that speed then...and call it a day...

Hello Leeghoofd,

I tried to mess with GTL voltages but when I set them manually I get errors. For example I tried to set CPU GTL's at 630 or more and NB GTL at 550 or 630 or more and I get errors. I have 1102 bios. Is this a problem with that bios ?

[truehighroller]

U used prime64v256, right? Never had problems with it on my vista x64

Then again I'm not responsible if it messes your or anyone elses system


EDIT: Hmm. actually I have not used its blend test that much. Too hangoverish. My brains not working properly
Going to test blend right now and see what happens xD

I didn't know they had that version prime no. Yah I sat here and played Devil May Cry all night last nighht and no probs where I'mn at right now 485 x 8 1.3v~.

[TouGe]

I was just wondering if anyone here has noticed that with BIOS 1102 you can now run PL7 with both pull-ins 1 & 3 enabled? I first tried PL7 Pull-in 3 enabled and it survived 1 hour large FFT's. I then tried PL7 2&3 enabled but my computer locked up after 10 minutes of prime. Next was PL7 1 & 3 enabled and I am now sitting at 1 hour prime and still going.
This was all done with the following settings:

400 Strap | 1066MHz
5-5-4-15-3-35
DRAM Static Rd: enabled
DRAM Rd Trainging: Disabled
Mem OC Charger: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister: Strong
Performance Level: 7
6 | 7 | 6 6 | 7 | 6

CPU Voltage: 1.26V
CPU GTL (0/2): Auto
CPU GTL (1/3): Auto
CPU PLL: 1.52V
FSB Term: 1.18V
DRAM Voltage: 2.14V
NB Voltage: 1.22V

Loadline: Enabled
CPU PCIE Speed Spectrum: Disabled
CPU/NB Skew: Normal


Newest feature (added in 1102): Performance

After this passes two hours I'm going to bump up the NB voltage to 1.32V and try to get Pullin 2 to work.

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Edit: I just wanted to add that so far I haven't seen any benefits from enabling PL7 in Everest bandwidth tests.

[rusty]

I didn't know they had that version prime no. Yah I sat here and played Devil May Cry all night last nighht and no probs where I'mn at right now 485 x 8 1.3v~.

can you show me your bios setup I'm trying to get 3.8 stable.

[truehighroller]

I was just wondering if anyone here has noticed that with BIOS 1102 you can now run PL7 with both pull-ins 1 & 3 enabled? I first tried PL7 Pull-in 3 enabled and it survived 1 hour large FFT's. I then tried PL7 2&3 enabled but my computer locked up after 10 minutes of prime. Next was PL7 1 & 3 enabled and I am now sitting at 1 hour prime and still going.
This was all done with the following settings:

400 Strap | 1066MHz
5-5-4-15-3-35
DRAM Static Rd: enabled
DRAM Rd Trainging: Disabled
Mem OC Charger: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister: Strong
Performance Level: 7
6 | 7 | 6 6 | 7 | 6

CPU Voltage: 1.26V
CPU GTL (0/2): Auto
CPU GTL (1/3): Auto
CPU PLL: 1.52V
FSB Term: 1.18V
DRAM Voltage: 2.14V
NB Voltage: 1.22V

Loadline: Enabled
CPU PCIE Speed Spectrum: Disabled
CPU/NB Skew: Normal


Newest feature (added in 1102): Performance

After this passes two hours I'm going to bump up the NB voltage to 1.32V and try to get Pullin 2 to work.

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Edit: I just wanted to add that so far I haven't seen any benefits from enabling PL7 in Everest bandwidth tests.

I might have to try that thanks but, what are your other settings?

Rusty, I posted all my settings between 3 to 7 pages back for my 3.8 settings.

[rusty]

I might have to try that thanks but, what are your other settings?

Rusty, I posted all my settings between 3 to 7 pages back for my 3.8 settings.

ok here's mine, need help to make it stable at 3.8

AI Overclock tuner: manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
FSB Frequency: 475
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-950MHz
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: auto
DRAM Timing Control: manual

1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read to Precharge Time: Auto

2nd Information :
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): Auto
Write to Read Delay (S): Auto
WRITE to READ Delay (D): Auto
READ to READ Delay (S): Auto
READ to READ Delay (D): Auto
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): Auto
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): Auto

3rd Information :
WRITE to PRE Delay: Auto
READ to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Disabled
AI Clock Twister: Auto
AI Transaction Booster: Auto
Common Performance Level 05
Pull-In of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4: Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3: Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4: Disabled

CPU Voltage: 1.33xx
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.675
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.675
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.54
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.30
DRAM Voltage: 2.10
NB Voltage: 1.34
NB GTL Reference: Auto
SBridge Voltage: 1.20
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.50

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : normal
NB Clock Skew : normal

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
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specs:
q9450
p5q-dlx bios 1102
red ballistix-6400 4-4-4-12-2T 1.8v-2.2v
evga 8800gtx
psu 850 realpower cm
wd750gb hdd caviar re2
Thermalright 120x

[truehighroller]

I could not get 7 to load at all with 1 and 3 enabled all disabled all enabled,,. I can however get 8 with all enabled to load though. I don't know what they all mean any way so. Wow you need to change your pl setting to 10 man. "Rusty". "Common Performance Level 05" needs to be ten or more. That is the 1:1 setting and the pl sucks on it? You also have toi much voltage on the nb you only need 1.26 or 1.28.

[rusty]

I could not get 7 to load at all with 1 and 3 enabled all disabled all enabled,,. I can however get 8 with all enabled to load though. I don't know what they all mean any way so. Wow you need to change your pl setting to 10 man. "Rusty". "Common Performance Level 05" needs to be ten or more. That is the 1:1 setting and the pl sucks on it? You also have toi much voltage on the nb you only need 1.26 or 1.28.

anything else ?
prime fails almost right away with threads 1 and 3.
p.s> do I need to enable all of these?
Pull-In of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4: Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3: Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4: Disabled

[truehighroller]

Ok here do this,

CPU Voltage: 1.33xx
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.63
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.63
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.32
DRAM Voltage: 2.12
NB Voltage: 1.28

[yenclas]

Hello Leeghoofd,

I tried to mess with GTL voltages but when I set them manually I get errors. For example I tried to set CPU GTL's at 630 or more and NB GTL at 550 or 630 or more and I get errors. I have 1102 bios. Is this a problem with that bios ?

Anyone help me please ?

[Leeghoofd]

with ya current setup you can get some more bandwith with a lower PL and later on try clock twister at moderate (depending on ya ram), in bold are the settings for 500FSB... most important you need more Vcore and NB voltage than with 9 multi and 450FSB...

AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 9 -- 8
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
FSB Frequency: 450 -- 500
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1081Mhz -- 1000
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Disabled
AI Clock Twister: Lighter
AI Transaction Booster: Manual
Common Performance Level [10]-- you should be able to get lower Pl here with a divider so with 450 FSB and 1081 ram 9 or even 8 is possible, with 1:1 PL 10....

CPU Voltage: 1.34375 --> for 500FSB ops I need more Vcore
CPU GTL Voltage Reference: AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52 --> I need 1.56 for 500FSB
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.22 --> I need 1.26 for 500FSB
DRAM Voltage: 2.12 --> that's 2.20 in reality
NB Voltage: 1.22 --> up 1.26-1.28 for 500FSB
SBridge Voltage: Auto
PCIE SATA Voltage: Auto

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto


Been taking your advice in this thread and here is where I am right now. P5Q-Pro 0901 Bios, E8400

9X450 100% Stable RAM is at 5/4 540MHZ

Whenever I drop ratio to 7-8 and set RAM to 500MHZ and try 1/1 I get errors in Windows.

anything else ?
prime fails almost right away with threads 1 and 3.

Rusty try more Vcore mate, try 1.35 for a while....

[Leeghoofd]

Anyone help me please ?

Yenclas if you are sure your CPU already needs 1.36 Vcore for 3.6Ghz mate you got a mediocre batch... if you want more you prolly have to give 1.4 or more for a few hundred Mhz more...one of the reasons I told you to stick with ya current stable OC at 3.6ghz...

Just a question how are ya temps ? at idle at and under load ? if they are pretty high you might want to check if your IHS of your CPU is flat... if not you prolly have to lap it...

Wow you need to change your pl setting to 10 man. "Rusty". "Common Performance Level 05" needs to be ten or more. That is the 1:1 setting and the pl sucks on it?

He just copied my template mate, he's on auto so most of the time PL will be 10 or more... no worries there

[R@ptor =]]]

Leeghoofd i can't stabilize in any way with my memories over 1000mhz.
You could mount a configuration of bios for me to try, with 450 of fsb?
forget the vcore, FSB
If you want to, of course
thanks

nobody??

[Leeghoofd]

nobody??

I think you have to mess a bit with the Skews mate to get them stable... that's really trial and error, delay 150 worked fine for the Mushkins here to get them over 1100mhz... Gskills here are no go....

[nex-3]

hi,guys here the newest bios P5Q.ASUS-DELUXE-1003 musst be final

http://rapidshare.com/files/13121117...ELUXE-1003.rar

edit:do you know why the SixEngine_V10016 cannot see on the homepage by deluxe only p5q,p5q.pro and so on you see the V10016 but by p5q-deluxe is still the old 10012?? also on the servers cant see the new one...you know why?

sorry my english^^

[Ronin777]

Hi everyone, I've got a bit of a problem. I've been running prime95 without issue, however when I try to play games (Call of Duty 4, Mass Effect...) the games freeze after about 5-10 minutes. I have had it up to 3.6 (9x400) with 1.45v and prime would run fine and I think I could run with even lower vcore. My temps were good too (around 63C on the hottest core) and at 3.2 (55-56C), what could be causing the games to crash? I am new to OCing and any advice or help would be appreciated.

AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 266
FSB Frequency: 400
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1003Mhz
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information :

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information :

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO


CPU Voltage: 1.4250
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.28
DRAM Voltage: 1.98
NB Voltage: 1.24
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: 1.10
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.50

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto

[nex-3]

new option in the new bios 1003..... cpu margin enhancement......what this is doing?

edit:somebody know if i can use the sixengine from the p5q.pro ... p5q....p5q-e also for the p5q.deluxe?
on the homepage you can see all p5q becoms a new version 10016 but only the p5q-deluxe have still the old one 10012..why? epu must be the same chip on all mobos so can i use oder better wait?

[TouGe]

I might have to try that thanks but, what are your other settings?

Rusty, I posted all my settings between 3 to 7 pages back for my 3.8 settings.

ASUS P5Q DLX Template :

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner:
CPU Ratio Setting: 9.0
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 400
FSB Frequency: 400
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1066
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control:

1st Information : 

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 4
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 35
Write Recovery Time: 6
Read to Precharge Time: 3

2nd Information :

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): 7
Write to Read Delay (S): 3
WRITE to READ Delay (D): 5
READ to READ Delay (S): 4
READ to READ Delay (D): 5
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): 4
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): 6

3rd Information :

WRITE to PRE Delay: 12
READ to PRE Delay: 5
PRE to PRE Delay: 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: 4
ALL PRE to REF Delay: 4
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger:   Disabled
AI Clock Twister: Strong
AI Transaction Booster: 
Common Performance Level: 7
Pull-In of CHA PH1: Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2: Diasabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3: Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4: ----------
Pull-In of CHB PH1: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4: -----------

CPU Voltage: 1.26250
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): .63
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): .67
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.18
DRAM Voltage: 2.14
NB Voltage: 1.22
NB GTL Reference: .67
SBridge Voltage: 1.10
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.50

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
NB Clock Skew : Normal
CPU Margin Enhancement: Performance 

[rusty]

Rusty try more Vcore mate, try 1.35 for a while....

Hi mate,
still no luck prime fails, first 1 and 3 and then 2 and 4.

For some reason I won't be able to boot without load line calibration enabled.
With load line calibration enabled, everest/cpu-z shows vcore 1.37v when in bios it's set to 1.35v.

[truehighroller]

Hi mate,
still no luck prime fails, first 1 and 3 and then 2 and 4.

For some reason I won't be able to boot without load line calibration enabled.
With load line calibration enabled, everest/cpu-z shows vcore 1.37v when in bios it's set to 1.35v.

Try OCCT and see if it is stable or use small ffts. I am perfectly stable but can not run large ffts.

[Dalten]

BIOS 1003 is officially posted for P5Q Deluxe, what are the changes in this one?