Nehalem-EP......BLOOMFIELD

[Hornet331]

http://www.nvidia.com/object/io_1216019719164.html
Nvidia officially announces SLI on the 'Bloomfield platform' as they call it currently..

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/07...ek-40-and-44/1
Possible release date? Early if you ask me.

good i hope there are boards without this chip...

[duploxxx]

Yepp and even with a $250 board it ends up being about the same price as 3800+ DC after it had been on the market for almost a year and it's most popular $150 motherboard We're glad Intel is not doing the same thing AMD did.

Most of us here trashed Intel out and an Intel Fan coined the term Expensive Edition. I like Extremely Expesive model. Unlike many AMD Fans, folks didn't just accept it as OK like. Oh and no one here will complain about you thread crapping because they disagree with you.

whose thread crapping here the intel bunnies that always have to comment on each thing because they were left in the dark for some many years?

at that time maybe a dualcore was expensive indeed, but so was the intel counterpart, the memory was up 4-5 times the current price, gpu was expensive, hd was expensive hence anything was expensive.

hello welcome in 2008, it is known for many years that you always had to pay lots of premium for the best parts even today.... yes even with your oh so beloved intel, check q9450-9650 for just few % more speed, same for nehalem above 2.66 = price x2

[Seraphiel]

I like the next story!

All of these feature being turned off in the BIOS also might have negative effects on the Processor. The whole page is a good read.

WOW, in six weeks!

Eeew, is there any truth to all of this? Is this what Blauhung have talked about in the past concerning OC?

[Donnie27]

whose thread crapping here the intel bunnies that always have to comment on each thing because they were left in the dark for some many years?

at that time maybe a dualcore was expensive indeed, but so was the intel counterpart, the memory was up 4-5 times the current price, gpu was expensive, hd was expensive hence anything was expensive.

hello welcome in 2008, it is known for many years that you always had to pay lots of premium for the best parts even today.... yes even with your oh so beloved intel, check q9450-9650 for just few % more speed, same for nehalem above 2.66 = price x2

Don't worry, no one's complaining because your arguments are so weak.

At that time AMD was only showing you what they think of you and how much they care about this market, that's nothing to laugh about. It's kind of sad. But they know they have un-questioning love and you prove it. They even showed that again when they bent over backward for Dell.

Yes, for you, hello and wake the hell up! Since AMD is sucking and stinking up the place, Intel could pull an AMD and stick it to us. They're not even showing greed here, even as you try to pretend they are. Of course they have high end models, but Q9300 is faster than the Competion and still has a very sweet price.

Dewd, unlike you, I love my Wallet and nothing 100 green-blooded AMD fans can say, can change that. In about six weeks your heartburn will just get much worse. You'll have to find new things to complain about.

[Movieman]

Gentleman,
Please be civil..
Remember, we're all after the same thing hopefully.
Thanks for reading

[Donnie27]

Eeew, is there any truth to all of this? Is this what Blauhung have talked about in the past concerning OC?

Yes. Just like anything else in this market, it will be worked out and around.

[Donnie27]

Gentleman,
Please be civil..
Remember, we're all after the same thing hopefully.
Thanks for reading

I try time and time again to NOT post to them the same negative way they post to me. It is kind of sad that being a consumer is seen as "talking out of both sides of your mouth", they wonder why all of the are posted.
At least 3 was added to my ignore list last week

[Movieman]

I try time and time again to NOT post to them the same negative way they post to me. It is kind of sad that being a consumer is seen as "talking out of both sides of your mouth", they wonder why all of the are posted.
At least 3 was added to my ignore list last week

That's the way to do it.
I have one on my ignore list for 2 years now..
My bloodpressure thanks me for it daily..

[Hornet331]

buhhh, ignore list talking.

[terrace215]

http://www.nvidia.com/object/io_1216019719164.html
Nvidia officially announces SLI on the 'Bloomfield platform' as they call it currently..

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/07...ek-40-and-44/1
Possible release date? Early if you ask me.

Is the author of the second article confused?

Week 44 = end of October, not September
Week 40 = end of September/start October

[Neuuubeh]

Did you see X68?

Well, I mightve missed something, but wasnt x68 supposed to show up a lot later than x58? Possibly in a similar fashion as the famed tick-tock cycle (so like 10-12 months)? Judging from what I've seen, if thats true, its nowhere near what x38 and x48 were/are? (apart from rumours, the same architecture..?)

[bowman]

Well, I mightve missed something, but wasnt x68 supposed to show up a lot later than x58? Possibly in a similar fashion as the famed tick-tock cycle (so like 10-12 months)? Judging from what I've seen, if thats true, its nowhere near what x38 and x48 were/are? (apart from rumours, the same architecture..?)

X68 isn't on the roadmap yet.. And I believe that was what his point was.

Blauhung stated that X58 may be slated to last all the way till PCI-E 3.0.

[Neuuubeh]

And I believe that was what his point was.

I dont really get his point, but thanks for the correction

[Donnie27]

I dont really get his point, but thanks for the correction

Yepp, Euro humor is like that. Many more folks are chompin' at the bit for the mainstream stuff.

[Fuji]

WOW, in six weeks!

The INQ said that it would be during IDF 2008

"WHILE INTEL WILL launch Nehalem at the San Francisco Intel Developers Forum in August, the firm has already unveiled a supercharged demo machine which features the chippery along with advanced solid state drives (SSD) and other technical goodies."

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...s-nehalem-demo

which is in august.

It would correspond to around the time frame that they launched their last "tock"

From the limited history that we have of tick/tock,

it would appear that ticks are launched around the January time frame and tock's in the june-july time frames.

[Donnie27]

The INQ said that it would be during IDF 2008

"WHILE INTEL WILL launch Nehalem at the San Francisco Intel Developers Forum in August, the firm has already unveiled a supercharged demo machine which features the chippery along with advanced solid state drives (SSD) and other technical goodies."

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...s-nehalem-demo

which is in august.

It would correspond to around the time frame that they launched their last "tock"

From the limited history that we have of tick/tock,

it would appear that ticks are launched around the January time frame and tock's in the june-july time frames.

Some of us speculated July-August 2008 back in Feb-08 launch, it is still for shipping products in larger numbers though.

[Fuji]

that's true. But being that they plan on launching Westmere in 2010, there wouldn't be that much time difference between that and Nehalem if it took them a few quarters to ramp up Nehalem.

I remember Intel saying that their tick/tock cadence will be unaffected by anything not even a product delay of a previous product. So i think it will be availability from the get go.

The whole point of penryn was to work out any kinks in the 45nm process and help them ramp up high volume 45nm for the launch of Nehalem.

So it would make sense that if the pricing has pretty much been announced that you'd have availability straight up.

[Donnie27]

that's true. But being that they plan on launching Westmere in 2010, there wouldn't be that much time difference between that and Nehalem if it took them a few quarters to ramp up Nehalem.

I remember Intel saying that their tick/tock cadence will be unaffected by anything not even a product delay of a previous product. So i think it will be availability from the get go.

The whole point of penryn was to work out any kinks in the 45nm process and help them ramp up high volume 45nm for the launch of Nehalem.

So it would make sense that if the pricing has pretty much been announced that you'd have availability straight up.

That'd mean they're right on schedule.
Penryn @45nm = Tock 2007
Nehalem @45nm = Tick2008
Nehalem @32nm =Tock 2009
New Architecture 32nm WM = Tock 2010 tick
Above @22nm = Tick 2011 tock

[Fuji]

yeah but what i was saying is that if they wait until next year for mass availability, then they'd be a bit behind. i don't know, it makes sense to me.

Then again, there's not much to base the tick-tock cadence on as we're only on our second tock.

[Donnie27]

yeah but what i was saying is that if they wait until next year for mass availability, then they'd be a bit behind. i don't know, it makes sense to me.

Then again, there's not much to base the tick-tock cadence on as we're only on our second tock.

Sure, if we just wait for something better, we'd never buy a computer. That second Tock takes two years to happen.

[LuckyNV]

That'd mean they're right on schedule.
Penryn @45nm = Tick 2007
Nehalem @45nm = Tock2008
Nehalem @32nm =Tick 2009
New Architecture 32nm WM = Tock 2010
Above @22nm = Tick 2011

Isn't Tick supposed to be new arch and tock the refresh?

Conroe = Tick?
Penryn = Tock?

[Donnie27]

Isn't Tick supposed to be new arch and tock the refresh?

Conroe = Tick?
Penryn = Tock?

I didn't think so. SO I checked.

http://www.intel.com/technology/tick-tock/index.htm

You're right, must edit that.

[Neuuubeh]

Isn't Tick supposed to be new arch and tock the refresh?

Conroe = Tick?
Penryn = Tock?

Year 1: "Tick"

Intel delivers a new silicon process technology that dramatically increases transistor density versus the previous generation. This technology is used to enhance performance and energy efficiency by shrinking and refining the existing microarchitecture.
Year 2: "Tock"

Intel delivers an entirely new processor microarchitecture to optimize the value of the increased number of transistor and technology updates that are now available.

So its the other way around, which I find very weird :p Tick being new architecture and tock the refresh does make more sense..

[ap4lifetn]

time to start saving for x58 and nehalem!!! we have CPU pricing, any mobo pricings yet? approximately 350 for cpu, 250 for mobo?

[mrcape]

I don't care about Nehalem at all until I see them on test benches with proper boards and bioses. This speculation crap is depressing.