Asus P5E3 Premium Wi-fi-AP

[Razmatazz]

Link please

BIOS 0505

I couldn't figure out how to link directly to the actual download page but just put in Motherboard, Socket 775, P5E3 Premium and click BIOS and that should get you there.

http://support.asus.com/download/dow...Language=en-us

[dood001]

BIOS 0505

I couldn't figure out how to link directly to the actual download page but just put in Motherboard, Socket 775, P5E3 Premium and click BIOS and that should get you there.

http://support.asus.com/download/dow...Language=en-us

Awesome thanks mate ......I was looking under "P5E3 Premium WiFi AP @n"

[BLHealthy4life]

So has anyone been able to tell if the Official 505 is better/Equal to the BETA 505?

[dood001]

So has anyone been able to tell if the Official 505 is better/Equal to the BETA 505?

I did a file compare using Vim and they are exactly the same.

[Razmatazz]

"P5E3 Premium Wifi AP @n" always seems to lag behind the P5E3 Premium in terms of official BIOS updates. ASUS will tell you to use to "official" BIOS for your exact board. This seems a bit excessive since the Wifi and non Wifi are basically the exact same board. I have the WiFi version and have no concerns installing 0505.

[soapman72]

Anyone here seen an improvement in performance or overclocking going from 0503 to 0505? I have everything running stable, and am pretty happy with my setup for now.......however, if the performance is better, I wouldn't be opposed to giving that one a try.

[BLHealthy4life]

New memory arrived today and i'm on BIOS 505.....BIOs is doing great this time around.

I'm not able to get the machine stable at the 600+ FSB setting yet, but at least it posts but then crashes at Windows load screen...it's a start! I couldn't come close to this in the other BIOs releases.

However, I've noticed soemthing with 505, 204, 151 and that is, if I set the memory to 2100Mhz, I will always get a windows file is missing error when trying to load windows. The machine posts, goes thru the boot up process, and then it says a file is missing....

I feel pretty confident that the 2000Mhz Patriot Vipers I just installed will do 2100Mhz, but I get the error with this memory and with my STT 1866 as well....I'm not sure if my STT 1866 would do 2100, however, I get the saem exact error between the STT and the Vipers at that speed which leads me to believe it may be the board....

I haven't seen anyone try the mem speed at 2100 in this thread....

Any suggestions or ideas?

Thanks

[dood001]

New memory arrived today and i'm on BIOS 505.....BIOs is doing great this time around.

I'm not able to get the machine stable at the 600+ FSB setting yet, but at least it posts but then crashes at Windows load screen...it's a start! I couldn't come close to this in the other BIOs releases.

However, I've noticed soemthing with 505, 204, 151 and that is, if I set the memory to 2100Mhz, I will always get a windows file is missing error when trying to load windows. The machine posts, goes thru the boot up process, and then it says a file is missing....

I feel pretty confident that the 2000Mhz Patriot Vipers I just installed will do 2100Mhz, but I get the error with this memory and with my STT 1866 as well....I'm not sure if my STT 1866 would do 2100, however, I get the saem exact error between the STT and the Vipers at that speed which leads me to believe it may be the board....

I haven't seen anyone try the mem speed at 2100 in this thread....

Any suggestions or ideas?

Thanks

What is the rated voltage for those? You may need more voltage. I was able to get 2060MHz out of the Corsair Dominator 1800C7 @ 2.1v.

[BLHealthy4life]

What is the rated voltage for those? You may need more voltage. I was able to get 2060MHz out of the Corsair Dominator 1800C7 @ 2.1v.

Hi.

Rated voltage is 2.0v....

I can go to 2060 no problem, as soon as i go 2100, I get a file missing error - the same error that I got whenever I tried to take my STT 1866 to 2100....on BIOS 151, 204 and now 505.

so, the same exact error between two different memories at the same speed, seems as though the board may be limited to under 2100Mhz??

I've tried 400 strap and 333 strap - both produce the error at 2100Mhz....

BL

[metro.cl]

i passed SP32M at 2100MHz 8.8.8.24.2T at 1.8v on the board with and older BIOS, havent tryed this one also Cellshock did really good with the board.

[soapman72]

I just flashed to 0505. Noticed that when running 450mhz FSB, loadline calibration is ENABLED when left on auto. I don't use it, so I had to set that to NORMAL. I copied all my settings and am running prime to ensure that it is still stable.

For the quick Everest benchmark that I ran, memory perfromance seems to be exactly the same as on 0503.


For whatever reason, I feel better no longer running a BETA bios........LOL I'll go back to that beta in a heartbeat If I have any problems with this one though.

[BLHealthy4life]

i passed SP32M at 2100MHz 8.8.8.24.2T at 1.8v on the board with and older BIOS, havent tryed this one also Cellshock did really good with the board.

What Performance level are you using?

Right now the RAM is running 2000 8-7-6-18 PL-7

[metro.cl]

What Performance level are you using?

Right now the RAM is running 2000 8-7-6-18 PL-7

SS are over here:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...shock+blue+kit

[nick2006]

Since we own similar systems (QX9650, 4GB RAM and this mobo), I suggest the following:

multiplier 8.0
strap 333
fsb 450
pcie 105
CR 1N
Ram 1801
Ram timings 7-7-7-18
Static Read and Dynamic Write both Disabled
All voltage to AUTO except VDimm set to 2.02
LLC Normal
Both Spectrums Disabled.

All others set to AUTO.

Also, C1E Support and Vanderpool Technology, both Disabled.

While using the above settings I have stable superPI nad OCCT, my PC keeps on rebooting randomly with instant BSOD...

I tried to set some values on ram skew control (200-250 delay on both channels) but the reboots keep on coming (one while browsing ob the net, other while re-encoding an .avi file etc.).

I'M TRULY DEVASTATED WITH THE THOUGHT THAT SO MUCH MONEY DON'T GIVE ME THE SECURITY OF A STABLE SYSTEM....

If anyone could help me here with some suggestion.... PLEASE !!!!

THANK YOU.

[Mykou]

While using the above settings I have stable superPI nad OCCT, my PC keeps on rebooting randomly with instant BSOD...

I tried to set some values on ram skew control (200-250 delay on both channels) but the reboots keep on coming (one while browsing ob the net, other while re-encoding an .avi file etc.).

I'M TRULY DEVASTATED WITH THE THOUGHT THAT SO MUCH MONEY DON'T GIVE ME THE SECURITY OF A STABLE SYSTEM....

If anyone could help me here with some suggestion.... PLEASE !!!!

THANK YOU.

is it stable at stock though ?

[nick2006]

is it stable at stock though ?

At stock I have no complaints... but... the whole purpose is to push a little (I don't think that 3.600Mhz with 1800Mhz ram even with 7-7-7-18 is a major O/C), just to make me a little happy...

I cannot think what to try next... I tried almost everything (AUTO settings was my last resort, u know). I shiver every time I think my cursor froze to death...

[Razmatazz]

Nick2006, I feel your pain. I just flashed to 0505 and once again tried to push things up to FSB 450 MHz. I also am not stable at these settings. I am now stable at default settings (FSB 400 MHz and 4GB RAM at 1600 MHz -- only increased NB to 1.41). I have not gone thru the whole business of trying to adjust clock skews with this new set of RAM. I see that BIOS 0505 has some additional skew adjustments so perhaps this is where we should be looking to next. The problem with me currently is that this process just takes so much time. I would like to be able to just plug in the settings and be off and running at FSB 450 MHz and DRAM frequency 1800 MHz. I just don't know what the right settings are.

I see that several people have increased PCIE to 105. What does PCIE actually do and how does this help your stablity?

[SoulsCollective]

PCI-E is the frequency at which your PCI-E slot runs - default 100MHz. On some boards, leaving at the default 100MHz can lead to problems as the mobo links PCI-E clock to FSB when at stock settings such that increasing FSB increases PCI-E clock, so most set it to 101MHz to avoid this. Increasing it further provides a bandwidth boost in 3D graphics, and so with high-clocked cards it can provide a performance boost.

[soapman72]

Nick2006, I feel your pain. I just flashed to 0505 and once again tried to push things up to FSB 450 MHz. I also am not stable at these settings. I am now stable at default settings (FSB 400 MHz and 4GB RAM at 1600 MHz -- only increased NB to 1.41). I have not gone thru the whole business of trying to adjust clock skews with this new set of RAM. I see that BIOS 0505 has some additional skew adjustments so perhaps this is where we should be looking to next. The problem with me currently is that this process just takes so much time. I would like to be able to just plug in the settings and be off and running at FSB 450 MHz and DRAM frequency 1800 MHz. I just don't know what the right settings are.

I see that several people have increased PCIE to 105. What does PCIE actually do and how does this help your stablity?

Razmatazz,



I think you are chasing the wrong settings. If you are running performance level 7 with the clock twister on auto, set the NB voltage to 1.57v as long as your CPU is stable, you shouldn't have much trouble getting this memory to run. Please start at 1.9v to the memory (vdimm). Drop the multiplyer to 6 or 7 for testing, and make sure you have enough Vcore for the resulting CPU speed. Leave all PLL, FSBT set to the minimum valuse if you have a 45nm dual core.

This new bios is awesome, without playing with skews or gtls, I have my Reapers running 8-8-7-24-2N @ 1800mhz. Prior to the 0505 Bios they wouldnt let me run anything tighter than the stock 8-8-8-27 without giving an error. Tonight I will try for 8-7-7-24 Also, I am running 1.82v, untill last night I had the vdimm set at the stock 1.9v

Let me know if I can offer any more help. Good luck!





EDIT: I just noticed that you have a quad core. Start around 1.61v to the NB I am running 1.61v and I have a dual core. If I drop it I will see an error, either immediatly or after as long as an hour of running prime95. 4gb at 1800mhz with a quad core on top of it, is quite a load, and you may want to make sure a fan is pointed at your NB heatsink while running those kind of voltages, but I don't believe you will find stability at much less VNb than that.

[Razmatazz]

Soapman 72, thanks for the input. I'm looking to much toward instant gratification. I will try increasing the NB as suggested. Dropping the multiplier initially is a good suggestion as well which I haven't done for awhile. Perhaps I just need to walk up the ladder in baby steps which I haven't done. I hadn't set the performance level but see that it defaults to 8 which shouldn't be an issue. I will set this manually.

SoulsCollective, thanks for the info on PCI-E

[nick2006]

Thanks to Soapman 72, I tried setting manually Vnb at 1.61, and, so far, OCCT gave me 1 hour stable results.

But I'm concerned if by increasing that much the NB voltage, I'll eventually result in degrading the mobo. Please note that I squeezed between the 8800GTS and the mugen cooler an 80mm fan looking halfway down the northbridge heatpipe... But I dunno if this can reduce nb temperature considerably...

The downside of this overall effort is that Prime95 keeps giving me an error after 3-4 minutes... The core voltage according to CPUZ is 1.312. Is there a possibility of an error-free Prime95 with more core voltage ?? Or do I have to manually give some settings in other tweak options too ???

Thank you all for this enormous help to all of us !!!!!

[Donster]

Seriously annoyed with my new system ... after RMA'ing mobo/soundcard and now a psu i still havnt resolved the Snap Crackle Pop issues properly really dont know what to do next

[soapman72]

Thanks to Soapman 72, I tried setting manually Vnb at 1.61, and, so far, OCCT gave me 1 hour stable results.

But I'm concerned if by increasing that much the NB voltage, I'll eventually result in degrading the mobo. Please note that I squeezed between the 8800GTS and the mugen cooler an 80mm fan looking halfway down the northbridge heatpipe... But I dunno if this can reduce nb temperature considerably...

The downside of this overall effort is that Prime95 keeps giving me an error after 3-4 minutes... The core voltage according to CPUZ is 1.312. Is there a possibility of an error-free Prime95 with more core voltage ?? Or do I have to manually give some settings in other tweak options too ???

Thank you all for this enormous help to all of us !!!!!

Hi Guys,


First off, I want to make it clear that I run a Dual core CPU, and I am in no way calling myself an expert on overclocking quad cores CPU's. That said, I would try more Vcore (just for testing) My E8400 requires 1.33v (load) to remain stable while running prime95 for almost 6 hours. I stop the test there with no errors, but don't feel the need to test for 12-24 hours like some guys do. It is VERY hard on equipment when we run the kind of elevated voltages we run.

I would recommend that you bump up the Vcore and NB and run Memtest86 for multiple passes. Whlile trying to overclock (tighten timings) on my 1800mhz reapers, I have seen errors after 4-5 passes, all while the system would run prime95 and OCCT for hours on end. Some would still call the system stable, since those programs run without error. I set the ram back to recommended settings, and got no memtest errors, so THAT is what I call stable.

Once you know that your memory does not give errors, run prime95 (seems tougher than occt to me, at least for testing a CPU overclock) on large FFT, this creates the toughest load on the CPU. If it runs fine for several hours, you can move to the BLEND test. THis loads the ram (and Northbridge) much more while also loading the CPU. If that will also run for several hours, you are nearly done. It is now time to start reducing the VCORE or NB voltage, but only test one Item at a time, or you wont know which reduction caused your instabilty. P5E3 boards have VERY fine adjustment when it comes to VCORE, so I tend to test in 2 click increments. I never want to end up right on the edge of stability when it comes to adequate voltages, but I also don't want to run too much......you get the point, I'm sure. Do the same for the NB, btu you may not want to move 2 clicks at a time for that one.

NOW, If you get errors soon while running Prime95 Large FFT chances are you don't have enough VCORE, but you need to pay attention to WHICH core gives the error. if it is ALWAYS the same, you may be able to fix it by playing with the GTL for that core, but I have not had that poarticular problem, so I have not had to adjust GTL's on my board at all. Pay attention to your temps, but once you get stable with the Large FFT test, move to the Blend test. this involves the Memory subsystem much more, so you may still get errors on the BLEND test that you didn't get when testing with Laarge FFT's. Bump the NB till those go away.

I posted a question in another section about the Max safe NB voltage for this chipset, not alot of people seem to know where the safe limit is. I am not sure either, but it seems that a fan over the NB heatsink is a very good idea when running these kind of memory speeds. I found some recommended settings for X38/X48 NB voltages on Corsair's website, and for their 4gb 1800mhz ram kit they list the NB voltage at 1.71v!!! I thought that might be a mis-print, so I called them. They said that ACTIVE cooling would be required, but some boards would need that kind of voltage to run those kind of memory speeds. They also did say that many boards could be stable at lower voltages, but they recommended 1.61v to start for 4gb at 1800mhz, moving up slowly from there if stability still was not achieved.

At teh end of the day, Quad cores can be tough to get stable at 450mhz FSB from what I am reading, and even dropping the multiplyer may not fix the problem, since it is the FSB that is not completely stable in alot of cases. Also, don't forget, If you are doing alot of testing at lower multiplyers, if and when you decide to move up to a higher multiplyer, you will almost always need a bump in NB voltage to keep things stable.

I hope this helps!

[Razmatazz]

Soapman72, Thank you for the above post. The info about the NB voltage and testing looks good. I haven't had a chance to give it a go yet but will be doing so soon.

[Monstru]

Just got this baby today....well....I say to myself....let's see it working. I flash the newest Bios, I change 3 voltages in BIOS (VPLL, VFSB and VDDR) and....

600 FSB direct BOOT - 3D Stable




610 FSB - SuperPi




615FSB - Validation

620 FSB - Screen (broken valid file)




Platform used:

E8500
Cooler Master Gemini II
Asus P5E3 Premium - Bios 0505
2x1GB Kingston KHX14400D3K/2G
MSI HD4850
WD Raptor 74Gb
PC P&C 610W

I'll play some more with it and see what it's really got on air, my target is 620-630 FSB under LN2 for SuperPi with E8600, 590-600 for 3D under LN2 and ....as much as possible for a CPUZ valid. Anyway, nice board