Project: Queso - MM Ascension 3 WC Loops

[disruptfam]

dammmmmmmmmmmmmn!!!!

hair dryer to the rescue?

[skinnee]

heat gun...low setting, just hit the blocks until they are warm...wiggle, wiggle, wiggle. I've heard never pull, always wiggle.

worked, we'll see if the board still works (knock on wood).

Pics coming...

[disruptfam]

what type of finish/color did your case in?

[Big_Daddy]

Try this before anything. Remove the pins, turn the motherboard over, and prop the board up on something so that the heat pipe just hangs. Give it an hour or so. Should just drop off. Worked for me.

[skinnee]

what type of finish/color did your case in?

anodized black

[disruptfam]

anodized black

Love it i will do the same with my lan rig cheers

[Big_Daddy]

I just have to say one thing about the MM Anodized Black cases. They are beautiful. Scratch resistant. Hell, I was trying to scratch a mark in it for a drill hole. I couldn't. I actually had to tape it, and mark with a pen. (yeah, yeah, should have done that to begin with) SO much less likely to scratch than their old high gloss powder coating. Anodizing is the way to go.

[skinnee]

update...

[MomijiTMO]

Woot. Things are moving along nicely. I totally love the blue coolant.

[Statts]

Which coolant is that?

[Pellepel]

looking good, looking good. That is insane how that NB came off

[Anemone]

Lovely case and really nice coolant

[skinnee]

Which coolant is that?

Feser UV Blue Dye, I'm still bummed I can't get UV Orange for the GPU loop, have to buy the pre-mixed.

System is up and running, minus the 9600GT...still trying to figure out what the problem is with the two cards and Vista-x64. Will get some "bling" pics once I get the UV's mounted and hidden away in the case. For now just getting the board and card clocked to where I want them.

[Astratuner]

How are the fans set up?

only in pull config?

cause i can't see on the pics :$, you only have fans fitted on the inside of the case? Is that correct to say?

[disruptfam]

this is looking good

get that gpu on water

[skinnee]

How are the fans set up?

6 fans in pull on the front.
3 fans in pull with another 2 in pull on the mobo side
2 fans up top in pull

only in pull config?

Yup

cause i can't see on the pics :$, you only have fans fitted on the inside of the case? Is that correct to say?

correct, all internal. Bring air in on the front, exhaust out the rear and top.

this is looking good

get that gpu on water

ty. in the works, trying to decide between the GPU blocks and pick up another GTX280 since the prices are dropping. Need to rebuild the funds department for that to take place.

[Pellepel]

Yup same with my configuration all pulled as well . That's going to be awsome 280GTX SLI

[Astratuner]

hey if you say that the 2 top ones are in pull to then your blowing the hot air back inside the case ?

Or your rear panel : the exaust panel as you said? I should think that the top ones should also be push fans cause hot air raises...


BTW mate when it's done can you make a movie for me

I wanna hear what noise the fans made cause you got quiete alot of them hehe. Or if you got a dB meter :p

[ShoNuff]

That is the money shot right there! I'm glad to see things are coming along so nicely. Keep it up!

Where is the second GTX280?

[skinnee]

Yup same with my configuration all pulled as well . That's going to be awsome 280GTX SLI

Yeah, just need another GTX280 and 2 FC blocks. Oh yeah, and a sugar-momma too.

hey if you say that the 2 top ones are in pull to then your blowing the hot air back inside the case ?

Or your rear panel : the exaust panel as you said? I should think that the top ones should also be push fans cause hot air raises...


BTW mate when it's done can you make a movie for me

I wanna hear what noise the fans made cause you got quiete alot of them hehe. Or if you got a dB meter :p

The top fans are pushing exhaust air out. The only fans that are actually "pulling" air or intake fans are those 6 on the front mounted on the two rads. Creating some negative pressure yes, but I would rather have the dust that stale heated air inside the case.

That is the money shot right there! I'm glad to see things are coming along so nicely. Keep it up!

Where is the second GTX280?

Thanks! I like that pic as well, things have hit a halt due to funding...having to spend a little extra on some other things, but the second GTX280 and FC blocks are coming (hopefully soon)!

[Astratuner]

I was wondering if MM could build this as a BTX style mobo tray layout?

You know hwere the cpu is on the lower side and the VGA cards are with the printed side up?

Are your HD's under you disc drives? Are they also air fan cooled?


Also i questioned myself with what kinda screw you fixed the 120.3's to your case? Where they with the 120.3 when you got them?

Sorry i want to know alot hehe it's for my future simmular project :P

[skinnee]

I was wondering if MM could build this as a BTX style mobo tray layout?

You know hwere the cpu is on the lower side and the VGA cards are with the printed side up?

I'm sure they can, the "stock" mobo tray could not facilitate that configuration, but I am sure Ben will work something up to accomodate...the new modular MB tray might accomplish that.

Are your HD's under you disc drives? Are they also air fan cooled?

HDD's are under the optical drive. I mounted them using the Scythe Anti-Vibration HDD mounts, just needed longer M3 screws.

Also i questioned myself with what kinda screw you fixed the 120.3's to your case? Where they with the 120.3 when you got them?

Fans to rad - 6-32 1.25" screws.
Front two rads to case - 6-32 .5" screws
Back Rad, 6-32 1.5" screws. These go through a few other things than just fan to rad.
Grill-|-Neoprene Washers-|-Case-|-AntiVibeMount-|-Fan-|-TC Gasket-|-Rad

Sorry i want to know alot hehe it's for my future simmular project :P

No problem...ask as many questions as you need!

[Astratuner]

Perhaps got a pic of those screws

Those screws go all the way through your rad? Or just to the first opening cause i know from the warnings that you can damage your rad if your not carefull enough

You have chosen for the most powerfull pumps that you could get from Laing right? If the more always the better? More flow i think, but then the water can't take mutch heat or dispence more heat ot the rad if you over do it not? Then you have to stick with 1/2" tygon right cause of the pump things are 1/2"?

Is 1/2" better for performance wise then 3/8"?

Also you just drilled holes into the bottom of the case to mount the pumps???

I've read that you can change the 'flow' speeds on those pumps? So you regulate the voltage they get and that changes the speed iirc?

This might be because i'm still green behind my ears and watercooling is a new thing for me

Also the pumps how are they all connected? And is there a way to monitor them? Cause I can't imagine that when you boot you have to check your pumps etc

Does you rig has a fancontroller or you didn't pick one ? If you have one you made pairs out of 2 fans for connecting it onto the controller?


I know it's alot But much appreciated

Thanks

[skinnee]

Perhaps got a pic of those screws

Which ones? Hell, I take a pic of all the different screws I used on the build.

Those screws go all the way through your rad? Or just to the first opening cause i know from the warnings that you can damage your rad if your not carefull enough

No, the screw length is just enough to go through the pre-drilled hole on the rad and not make contact with the Rad fins or tubes. I did have a little incident where I did not measure accurately, but that has been taken care of.

You have chosen for the most powerfull pumps that you could get from Laing right? If the more always the better? More flow i think, but then the water can't take mutch heat or dispence more heat ot the rad if you over do it not? Then you have to stick with 1/2" tygon right cause of the pump things are 1/2"?

I don't know if you can call the D5/MCP655 the most powerful pump available, I think the DDC3.2/MCP355 might take that crown, but I got the pumps I knew I could rely on. Another addition to this project is going to be adding Fillports and Drain lines, I might start experimenting with the DDC3.2's in that portion of the project. With the D5/MCP655 you cannot use your own fittings unless you get an aftermarket top (several in prototype phase atm), and the DDC3.2's require aftermarket tops as well. If the pump only had 3/8" Barbs, I would have modded them to take fittings.

Is 1/2" better for performance wise then 3/8"?

By only a limited amount, I don't remember the thread that compared tube size to temps and flow...let me try and find that again. Ah yes, a Cathar thread, so you know the info is top notch...http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=147767

Also you just drilled holes into the bottom of the case to mount the pumps???

Yup, pretty much. I put masking tape (painters tape) down and laid out where I wanted the pumps. Traced around the pump brackets so I had the outline, took one of the pumps of a bracket and used that to go back in each spot where I traced to mark the spots where I would drill.

I've read that you can change the 'flow' speeds on those pumps? So you regulate the voltage they get and that changes the speed iirc?

Yes, the pumps have a variable impeller speed setting, a little rotary dial on the back of the pump (Settings 1-5). The rotary dial just changes the V-A draw by the pump.

This might be because i'm still green behind my ears and watercooling is a new thing for me

No worries mate, we all start somewhere!

Also the pumps how are they all connected? And is there a way to monitor them? Cause I can't imagine that when you boot you have to check your pumps etc

I took one molex cable for my PSU and modded it slightly by removing the floppy power connector and added another molex. So the one cable is powering the Fan Controller, and all three pumps...ahh, one of the reasons to run a Single Rail PSU with modular cables.

I should have taken more pics of the individual steps, but I kept forgetting and just kept my mp3 player going and rocking through the work, then oh crap, I need to take pics.

Does you rig has a fancontroller or you didn't pick one ?

It does, a Sunbeam Rheobus Extreme, 6 channels @ 30W per channel.

If you have one you made pairs out of 2 fans for connecting it onto the controller?

I took three fans or two fans depending on which ones and soldered them into a common header. I have a pic somewhere of this, I'll add that pic to the one of the screws I used.

I know it's alot But much appreciated

Thanks

No problem!!!!

[Jtrain43791]

just a quick question, was planning to use that same PSU in my upcoming build, how much space is there between your PSU and your Rad fans, i know that the PSU is like 9 inches long or some craziness like that. Build looks great keep it up!