"ASUS P5Q Deluxe discussion".

[Leeghoofd]

News on the 0706 ?

Seems with me if I leave LLC at auto that it is enabled, I need to force via disable to have the droop/drop... can anyone verify this plz...

For the ram/speed initial quick tests seem to reveal no performance jumps with me...

Bios seems to recover better here (not always resetting to default)...

[Mumid]

I had no problems with setting this board up with components in sig, flashed straight to 704 official bios. LLC @ Auto set it to enabled. Had to manually turn it off.

Quick first test: running PL8 at 400fsb 1:1 at stock VID. Doesnt look too bad so far:



Will test more over the weekend

[Mumid]

For anyone concerned with DPC latency on this board, this is what mine looks like in XP 32.



NOTE: I had to disable Network port 2 in the bios (its the network card that uses the PCI bus, rather than the PCI-Express bus) as this was causing some DPC latency spikes.

[jVIDIA]

Why disable LLC ?

[Mumid]

Why disable LLC ?

Because it was actually making my voltage go up under load. Set it to 1.15, it was idling at 1.128 and going up to 1.136 when under load.

Besides, I think mobos are supposed to have some vdrop/droop so I prefer LLC off.

[-n7-]

I understand the safety reasoning behind allowing vdroop, but i prefer to have LLC enabled.

If not, then i have higher temps & voltage idling, which is a waste of everything, & lower voltage under load, when it's actually needed.

Right now i run 1.4v set in bios, which reads as 1.39v idle, 1.4v load (LLC enabled of course)

On my previous DFI it was actually around 1.375v idle to 1.4v load, but again, i prefer a lower idle voltage + higher voltage under load rather than higher idle & lower load.

Each to their own though...

[R@ptor =]]]

I just take my mobo, but I am without thermal past .. so, I believe i will not test today this mobo.
I am the first Brazilian to take this mobo: D
the best bios, for now?

[jordinho]

K Unhook all drives, DVD Roms...set bios to default plz...
put one dimm on the right hand black slot... does it post ? if yes add another dimm in the right hand yellow slot... I tried all combo's here with the 4gb kits, because your case intrigues me... with one, two or 4 dimms the mobo posts no matter if I fill up the slots first from the right or from the left or mix them up to stay dual channel... I have high suspicion maybe one of the dimms is flakey... I would test them one by one... also do you force any settings in the bios for the ram ? It certainly is not your board as your replacement one acts in the same manner... could be an incompatability or a bad dimm or bad setting or a combo of all...

tried unhooking everything. (only video card cpu and ram left, restored defaults) still no go. tried all 6 modules one at a time yellow and black slots. going to try buying a new psu. any other suggestions would be most appreciated.

[Leeghoofd]

tried unhooking everything. (only video card cpu and ram left, restored defaults) still no go. tried all 6 modules one at a time yellow and black slots. going to try buying a new psu. any other suggestions would be most appreciated.

So the pc doesn't even boot with one dimm in onez of the right dimm slots ? The pc no longer posts with one dimm installed at all ?

I really think a) you got a hardware incompatability here or you got the same dud board back as before... with ram in the 2 left hand slots it works ? did you try upping NB voltage ? setting Dimm voltage at the correct value ?

Can you plz fill in this template and send it to me plz so I can check what is set and what not :

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/P5Q%20Dlx.rtf

And list all ya hardware plz...

[diablos]

I guys,
with my p5q deluxe I can't boot over 580 fsb (with a e8500)
I have tried some setting with no result
Can I help me?

thanks

[Leeghoofd]

I guys,
with my p5q deluxe I can't boot over 580 fsb (with a e8500)
I have tried some setting with no result
Can I help me?

thanks

fill in the template, and list ya hardware plz... we got nothing to work with here

[jordinho]

So the pc doesn't even boot with one dimm in onez of the right dimm slots ? The pc no longer posts with one dimm installed at all ?

I really think a) you got a hardware incompatability here or you got the same dud board back as before... with ram in the 2 left hand slots it works ? did you try upping NB voltage ? setting Dimm voltage at the correct value ?

Can you plz fill in this template and send it to me plz so I can check what is set and what not :

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/P5Q%20Dlx.rtf

And list all ya hardware plz...

q6700, 8800gtx, 4gb ocz rams, 2gb supertalent rams(for testing, works fine on my 965p board), xfi platinum, liteon dvdrw, currently trying to install 74gb raptor, 2x 500gb seagate (spare 74gb and 150gb raptors), pc power and cooling 510 sli psu.
this would really suck if this board i got is another dud. damnit

ASUS P5Q DLX Template :

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: AUTO
CPU Ratio Setting: AUTO
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: AUTO

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: AUTO
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: AUTO
DRAM RAS# Precharge: AUTO
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: AUTO
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information :

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information :

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO

CPU Voltage: AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: AUTO
FSB Termination Voltage: AUTO
DRAM Voltage: 2.08
NB Voltage: AUTO
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Load Line Calibration: AUTO
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
NB Clock Skew : Normal

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: Auto
CPU VID: Default
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

[diablos]

fill in the template, and list ya hardware plz... we got nothing to work with here

ocz 700watt
e8500
corsair dominator 2*1gb 8500
watercooling

ASUS P5Q DLX Template :

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 6
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 400
FSB Frequency: 580
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1160
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information :

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information :

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: Manual
Common Performance Level (try from 12 to 18)
Pull-In of CHA PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH4: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH4: DISABLED

CPU Voltage: 1,3000
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: (try 1,5 to 1,6)
FSB Termination Voltage: (try auto and from 1,1 to 1,9)
DRAM Voltage: 2,2
NB Voltage: (1,50 with more or less the system can't stat up)
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Load Line Calibration: Enable
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
NB Clock Skew : Normal

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: Manual
CPU VID: Default
C1E Suppport: Enable
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

[R@ptor =]]]

Guys..
i have one question here..
i'm mouting my p5q deluxe, and i don't know what cable i have to connect of this plug!! my psu don't have this connector!
sorry about the quality of picutre, i just take this picture right now with my cell phone..

[Leeghoofd]

Your PSU doesn't have the 8 pin mobo connector mate, mostly it will run just fine but might be required for some beefy overclocking action... only one way to find out and is to give it a shot

[R@ptor =]]]

So, with this psu i will not have this problem???

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139004

[Leeghoofd]

So, with this psu i will not have this problem???

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139004

Try your PSU first mate no need to cash out when it's not required... could work just fine

[R@ptor =]]]

But i'm afraid to use this cooler master extreme power in this new pc...
now i will play with 8800gts 512mb...
it's much to this psu in my seen..

[jVIDIA]

Because it was actually making my voltage go up under load. Set it to 1.15, it was idling at 1.128 and going up to 1.136 when under load.

LLC enabled here doesn't make those flutuations!!
There must be something wrong in your system.

[Leeghoofd]

was a typo he pm'd me, but can you confirm at auto setting with the latest bios that it's automatically enabled... mine is... auto before was LLC disabled

[2chesapeakes]

Quick question I installed the P5Q deluxe and everything booted. Now I am trying to 4.0Ghz 400FSB 10 Multi my QX9650 requires alot more voltage than the ones I am seeing here 1.4875. I can get the board to boot however after 25 ,imutes of Prime 95 blend or Small FFT's the computer freezes. I am using PL level 10. Is there something that would usually cause tthe system to freeze. I started getting rounding errors so I bumped up the voltage no more rounding errors just screen freeze. Some advice would be greatly appreciated.

CPU QX9650
OCZ PC9200
Windows Vista 64

CPU Ratio Setting: 10
FSB Strap to North Bridge: auto
FSB Frequency: 400
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1066

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

DRAM Static Read Control: DISABLED
DRAM Read Training: disabled
MEM. OC Charger: enabled
AI Clock Twister: moderate
AI Transaction Booster: manual 10

CPU Voltage: 1.40625v
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): .670
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): .670
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.54v
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.34v
DRAM Voltage: 2.1
NB Voltage: 1.26v
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Load Line Calibration:--enable
CPU Clock Skew : delay 400ps
NB Clock Skew : delay 100ps

[Leeghoofd]

Try these plz and see if it's stable

CPU Ratio Setting: 10 --> try 9 first, let her burn in
FSB Strap to North Bridge: auto
FSB Frequency: 400
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1066

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

DRAM Static Read Control: DISABLED
DRAM Read Training: disabled --> AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: enabled --> AUTO
AI Clock Twister: moderate --> AUTO (tweak later)
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO --> later 8 surely possible

CPU Voltage: 1.40625v --> try to go as low as possible
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): .670 --> AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): .670 --> AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.54v
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.34v --> 1.22
DRAM Voltage: 2.1
NB Voltage: 1.26v
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Load Line Calibration:--enable
CPU Clock Skew : delay 400ps --> AUTO
NB Clock Skew : delay 100ps--> AUTO

You prolly got unlucky if you really require plus 1.4volts for the Qx mate... try 3.6Ghz first and try to report the lowest possible Vcore that it remains stable... I hope you can do it around 1.2volts... but looking at ya current numbers doubt it

[Vivi]

Leeghoofd, is there any overvolting or undervolting with this board?
my rampage did this (but the bios showed the volts of pll and fsb which the p5q D does not)
Bios set vfsb 1.5 --> real 1.4 (entire .1 drop)
Bios set PLL. 1.54--> real 1.58 (.04 Overvolt)

since we dont know what is the output of the p5q D, sould i just use a DMM or assume there is no drop or raise?

[2chesapeakes]

Leeghoofd,
I changed the setting as you showed above. 1.2 volts was instant rounding error in prime 95 small FFT's 1.25 was the same. 1.3 volts semms to be holding I will let small FFT's run for a couple hours and if it holds I will run blend.
Thanks
What is the VID of your Qx9650 seems like a real good chip.

Is there a website or post in this forum where I could read and learn what all the different setting are for and what effect they have on the system and how to best use them to OC?

[Leeghoofd]

Best way is to verify ya own board... thing we all agree on is that Auto voltage corresponds to the lowest voltage setting but this can differ big time from the value set in bios... best is to set eg 1.52 for CPU pll... value is pretty close here, some have a bit overvolting... Vdimm is with my board about 0.08 extra... look at post 951 sums it up pretty nicely...

Leeghoofd,
I changed the setting as you showed above. 1.2 volts was instant rounding error in prime 95 small FFT's 1.25 was the same. 1.3 volts semms to be holding I will let small FFT's run for a couple hours and if it holds I will run blend.
Thanks
What is the VID of your Qx9650 seems like a real good chip.

My Vid is 1.1375... so that's 1.3 set in bios giving you about 1.23 under load ?