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    Quote Originally Posted by madcho View Post
    Video ram is shared on 48xx with crossfire mode.

    For 3D, and HD decode.
    Is this different from the 38xx or 88xx series I wonder? If so id imagine ddr3 and pcie will become more important. Im I barking up the wrong tree on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wideband View Post
    Is this different from the 38xx or 88xx series I wonder? If so id imagine ddr3 and pcie will become more important. Im I barking up the wrong tree on this.
    pci-e 16x 2.0 will be important to reach maximum performance.

    DDR3 is not usefull to the cpu for the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madcho View Post
    The NDA is partially out in france on 4850.
    what NDA??



    Effective 9:00 AM EDT on Thursday, June 19th, AMD will be lifting the embargo preventing the publishing of ATI Radeon HD 4850 performance previews.
    These performance previews may include ATI Radeon HD 4850 benchmarks, photos of the ATI Radeon HD 4850 hardware, information printed on related packaging or photos of the packaging itself and related pricing information.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ORBR View Post
    Radeon™ HD 4800 Series Hotfix IS OUT!

    http://support.ati.com/ics/support/K...estionID=35298

    This Hotfix improves overall performance and stability.

    All the benchs needs to redo


    that Hotfix was released 2 days Ago!







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    Quote Originally Posted by adamsleath View Post
    "spills to system RAM" oo interesting
    thats nothing new, when the frame buffer of the videocard is full, parts of the main memory is used for storing texture, but its slow as hell... even with 16x pcie 2.0.

    16x pcie 2.0 has 16GB/s (8Gb/s in each direction), thats roughly the same as a HD3470 has, and latancy is also a high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mascaras View Post
    what NDA???
    There's still an NDA covering the details of the architecture until tomorrow afaik
    Seems we made our greatest error when we named it at the start
    for though we called it "Human Nature" - it was cancer of the heart
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    SB750 has IMC according to internal AMD papers...could this be used to manage video ram?

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    I hope there will be AIBs that will bring a 4870 to the market with a single 8-pin connector as my PSU does have 2 of those, but not 4 6-pin connectors. That way I may have an upgrading option for later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrowncoatGR View Post
    There's still an NDA covering the details of the architecture until tomorrow afaik
    The NDA has fallen at Tuesday, this week, which means 17.06 .
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    Quote Originally Posted by cadaveca View Post
    SB750 has IMC according to internal AMD papers...could this be used to manage video ram?
    Eh whateh...
    Where's that 'paper'? AMD can't even get their own specs/docs in order...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuen4y View Post
    The NDA has fallen at Tuesday, this week, which means 17.06 .
    No, not completely, those that are under NDA are actually still under NDA but they were allowed to release a preview of the 4850. They however are not allowed to talk about what's inside the chip and stuff like that.
    I'm sure there are quite couple of peeps that know what the R700 is made of, but none of them is allowed to talk about it . Even the 4870 does still not officially exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helmore View Post
    No, not completely, those that are under NDA are actually still under NDA but they were allowed to release a preview of the 4850. They however are not allowed to talk about what's inside the chip and stuff like that.
    I'm sure there are quite couple of peeps that know what the R700 is made of, but none of them is allowed to talk about it . Even the 4870 does still not officially exist.
    Oh, it exists http://www.unleashonetera.com/
    Quote Originally Posted by Aivas47a View Post
    Doesn't it seem kind of funny to have an NDA on 4850 architecture when the cards are already on sale and in use?
    The marketing is falling behind from the trade department .
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    Doesn't it seem kind of funny to have an NDA on 4850 architecture when the cards are already on sale and in use?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aivas47a View Post
    Doesn't it seem kind of funny to have an NDA on 4850 architecture when the cards are already on sale and in use?
    It's fault to seller, witch didn't respected the NDA

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    Quote Originally Posted by madcho View Post
    It's fault to seller, witch didn't respected the NDA
    more like fault of ati, noone can expect a dealer to have dead inventory for several weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kai Robinson View Post
    Something about the Tweaktown review seems....wonky.
    http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...has-arrived/13

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    Quote Originally Posted by flopper View Post
    I agree, seems fishy, either that or the gigabyte board cant do good crossfire, asus seems to be fine, i trust bit tech alot more than tweak town......im getting my p5q3 tommorow, i already have my 2 4850's in hand, so i can let you know the truth about p45 crossfire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GAR View Post
    I agree, seems fishy, either that or the gigabyte board cant do good crossfire, asus seems to be fine, i trust bit tech alot more than tweak town......im getting my p5q3 tommorow, i already have my 2 4850's in hand, so i can let you know the truth about p45 crossfire.
    Do you have an X38/X48 board to compare to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AriciU View Post
    Do you have an X38/X48 board to compare to?
    Naw bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GAR View Post
    I agree, seems fishy, either that or the gigabyte board cant do good crossfire, asus seems to be fine, i trust bit tech alot more than tweak town......im getting my p5q3 tommorow, i already have my 2 4850's in hand, so i can let you know the truth about p45 crossfire.
    any result yet, can't wait, thanks bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flopper View Post
    Yes, but the test has been done with 2 HD3870 , not HD4850 and perhaps the results would have been different because the HD4850 are more powerful .

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeanjean15 View Post
    Yes, but the test has been done with 2 HD3870 , not HD4850 and perhaps the results would have been different because the HD4850 are more powerful .
    well find out soon, i get my board monday here in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GAR View Post
    well find out soon, i get my board monday here in the US.
    Ok, fine ! So , let's wait .

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    1) Will the 4870 need a Bios fix like the 3870 to hit 1Ghz and above on the core....

    2) Omega drivers dont seem to be updated anymore, any other way of installing ATI drivers only but still have control over AA/AAF settings. I do not want to install the annoying .NET Framework just for the CCC function....
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    Yeah, I too would like to know how the 4850/4870 performs on the p5q. If I don't have to get the expensive x48 board I'd rather settle for a $200 P5Q Deluxe.

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    P45 is a better chipset IMO, 65nm vs 90nm, ich10 vs ich9, higher fsb's, only thing lacking is full 16x crossfire.

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