ATI Radeon HD 4000 Series discussion

[Helmore]

ATI could infact support Physx, they would need to adopt CUDA to there own CTM system, nvidia have already said they could adopt cuda, so its upto ATI if they do or not.

ATI apparently has more faith in open standards like Brook+ and OpenCL and their backing goes to those coding languages. BTW, Brook+ is basically born in the same place as CUDA , it's just that Brook+ is open source and CUDA is not. Otherwise check this article on ATI's doing in GPGPU:
http://techreport.com/articles.x/14968

[JohnZS]

ATI apparently has more faith in open standards like Brook+ and OpenCL and their backing goes to those coding languages. BTW, Brook+ is basically born in the same place as CUDA , it's just that Brook+ is open source and CUDA is not. Otherwise check this article on ATI's doing in GPGPU:
http://techreport.com/articles.x/14968

Interesting... I smell driver mods/hacks or something which may perhaps "wrap" one to the other.......

[madmossy]

ATI apparently has more faith in open standards like Brook+ and OpenCL and their backing goes to those coding languages. BTW, Brook+ is basically born in the same place as CUDA , it's just that Brook+ is open source and CUDA is not. Otherwise check this article on ATI's doing in GPGPU:
http://techreport.com/articles.x/14968

Still ATI need to support Physx, not just because nvidia do, but because unfortunately for us nvidia have the largest market share and they will push it, if its not supported in hardware we end up with a situation where some software titles get a massive boost over others for different hardware brands.

This can already be seen with 3dmark vantage making use of the physx acceleration offered by the 9800's gtx 260/280's.

Atleast one this is good though, with ati and blizzard teaming we should see a drastic increase in ati's market share, with 10 million people seeing "made for ati etc" as they fire up wow it should sell alot more cards.

[Macadamia]

Still ATI need to support Physx, not just because nvidia do, but because unfortunately for us nvidia have the largest market share and they will push it, if its not supported in hardware we end up with a situation where some software titles get a massive boost over others for different hardware brands.

This can already be seen with 3dmark vantage making use of the physx acceleration offered by the 9800's gtx 260/280's.

Atleast one this is good though, with ati and blizzard teaming we should see a drastic increase in ati's market share, with 10 million people seeing "made for ati etc" as they fire up wow it should sell alot more cards.

I have a big feeling that FM might release a 3DV 1.02 and change the scoring on PhysX and CPUs. Since unlike the PPU, the GPU has to work on other stuff when gaming, and pure speed in Vantage is not representative of the gaming experience/speed with PhysX otherwise.

[flopper]

Atleast one this is good though, with ati and blizzard teaming we should see a drastic increase in ati's market share, with 10 million people seeing "made for ati etc" as they fire up wow it should sell alot more cards.

Go WoW!


However, love the commerials Blizzard are doing, when a game even as it is now gets into tv-series, commercials even as it is popular that would give ati a good push.
http://kotaku.com/gaming/clips/new-w...ner-325030.php
When even capt Kirk is joining you know its good.

[Xello]

with ati and blizzard teaming we should see a drastic increase in ati's market share, with 10 million people seeing "made for ati etc" as they fire up wow it should sell alot more cards.

Hmm, i'm not sure WoW is the best game to partner with to sell cards, it runs pretty well on a Radeon 9800. I wonder what the logic is in this partnership.

[spicypixel]

Hmm, i'm not sure WoW is the best game to partner with to sell cards, it doesn't exactly need a recent video card to run it even @ max settings. I wonder what the logic is in this partnership.

One would presume they are likely to bundle a 10day trial or something with the ATI cards, or more importantly optimise WoW2 around a ATI architecture. 10million users is a nice base to have if and when a sequel comes out.

[Monkeywoman]

there are a total of 84 games that use PhysX. there are over 150 that use Havok which is soon to be adopted by ATI. Nvidia might have the upper hand now but when physics acceleration is added to Catalyst then there would be more benefit to own a Radeon card. BTW starcraft 2 uses Havok, that might be a push for ATI.

[bowman]

Hmm, i'm not sure WoW is the best game to partner with to sell cards, it runs pretty well on a Radeon 9800. I wonder what the logic is in this partnership.

Starcraft 2, their unknown, un-named 'next generation MMO', anything else they might bother with.. Diablo 3, etc

http://kotaku.com/gaming/world-of-st...mmo-255852.php

[mascaras]

here in PT HD4870 512MB already anounced for next week (28th)

price = 279€ (512MB GDDR5 version)



regards