ATI Radeon HD 4000 Series discussion

[Errik89]

the price for HD4850 at launch is very low! It's the same of the GEFORCE 8800GT but RV770 PRO score the same as 9800GTX that have a price of 300+$
In Italy for example geforce 8800gt is priced about 140€ while geforce 9800gtx 230€. The first shop that have radeon hd4850 have a price of 175€.

I hope that the price of hd4870 is lower as 4850, too!

[ORBR]

the price for HD4850 at launch is very low! It's the same of the GEFORCE 8800GT but RV770 PRO score the same as 9800GTX that have a price of 300+$
In Italy for example geforce 8800gt is priced about 140€ while geforce 9800gtx 230€. The first shop that have radeon hd4850 have a price of 175€.

I hope that the price of hd4870 is lower as 4850, too!

seems not
I see prices around 320€ for the 4870

seems that the best performances/price here is 4850 and 4850 Crossfire

[spursindonesia]

you aren't taking into account that if the 8800gt is $50 more there, than you should expect the 4850 to be roughly $75-$100 more there at launch, then drop to being $40-$50 more

Mate, i'm sorry if my post is rather unclear, but the card IS already in distribution aka being sold in my country for 220 US$, so that is THE FACTO launch price for this particular card in my country, clearly undercutting some of the most expensive 8800 GT (the factory preOCed edition), 8800 GTS, and 9800 GTX. But i do expect some price cut from the nVidia's distros soon.

Nevertheless, this is a good effort from ATi distros here, since in the GD 3870 launch, they had made many ATi fanATics disappointed by overpricing them considerably, relatively compared to other countries price for RV670 card at that time. In December, i decided to go for the cheapest 8800 GT 512 MB at that time, since the cheapest HD 3870 was actually slightly more expensive compared to the one that i bought back then.

[Genius_pt]

But 349$ is about 230€. I should expect hd4870 to come first at 250-260€ maximum.

[AliG]

Mate, i'm sorry if my post is rather unclear, but the card IS already in distribution aka being sold in my country for 220 US$, so that is THE FACTO launch price for this particular card in my country, clearly undercutting some of the most expensive 8800 GT (the factory preOCed edition), 8800 GTS, and 9800 GTX. But i do expect some price cut from the nVidia's distros soon.

Nevertheless, this is a good effort from ATi distros here, since in the GD 3870 launch, they had made many ATi fanATics disappointed by overpricing them considerably, relatively compared to other countries price for RV670 card at that time. In December, i decided to go for the cheapest 8800 GT 512 MB at that time, since the cheapest HD 3870 was actually slightly more expensive compared to the one that i bought back then.

damn nice, that might mean the US will be even less

[Errik89]

But 349$ is about 230€. I should expect hd4870 to come first at 250-260€ maximum.

agree. I think that the price are about that, but probably for the first week (cause shortage of gddr5 chip) the price could be higher (i presume about 300€ in europe).

[perkam]

Can someone check to see if European sites have the 4850 up. Ty.

Perkam

[Errik89]

Can someone check to see if European sites have the 4850 up. Ty.

Perkam

I've seen some shop in france and netherlands and now there are also some italian shops. No one already have the vga but in anyone it can be ordered.

[Genius_pt]

I've only seen so far pre-ordering for the hd4850.

[Rammsteiner]

Mainly Sapphire 4850 is for pre-order. Cheapest I saw was 160 Euro thus far. Asus 4850 is at one shop as well, for around 160 Euro as well.

No signs of 4870's though.

Cant wait to get my hands on a 4870 CFX, do a little Vmod with pencil and run it just like my 3870's, 900Mhz... Well, if this core will yield the same of course

[Luka_Aveiro]

Here in Portugal a shop has already revealed they will be selling it about 175/180€

[Dark-Energy]

Cool, I'm excited.

[clayton]

This is why I love crossfire more than SLI. I get to keep the older videocard as a slave while the new one as the master. T.T

[perkam]

The 4870 will premiere in Europe for around 260 Euros from the differences I can see in the 4850 prices.

Therefore, two of them should end up cheaper than a GTX 280. Though that is good news in some ways, people who have SLI mobos will stick with a one card solution and may go for 2x GTX 280 or 260 which is power that ATI will not be able to match until the 4870X2 (aka R700) arrives.

Perkam

[mascaras]

But 349$ is about 230€.

doesnt "work" like that !

in europe you have Taxes , etc , etc


regards

[GoldenTiger]

The 4870 will premiere in Europe for around 260 Euros from the differences I can see in the 4850 prices.

Therefore, two of them should end up cheaper than a GTX 280. Though that is good news in some ways, people who have SLI mobos will stick with a one card solution and may go for 2x GTX 280 or 260 which is power that ATI will not be able to match until the 4870X2 (aka R700) arrives.

Perkam

I have an SLI motherboard and am selling it to switch back to a Crossfire one, myself... . 2x 4850 or if they come cheaper than expected 4870 (have 4850s on order right now) should hopefully be less expensive/perform better than a 260 at least.

[perkam]

(have 4850s on order right now) should hopefully be less expensive/perform better than a 260 at least.

In benchmarks two 4850s should exceed the GTX 280

Perkam

[Genius_pt]

doesnt "work" like that !

in europe you have Taxes , etc , etc


regards

So I said it should come aroud 250-260€.

[STaRGaZeR]

So I said it should come aroud 250-260€.

More like around 300€ in some shops

[perkam]

More like around 300€ in some shops

The 4870 GDDR5 Super-Overclocked version maybe

Most should settle around the 265 area. Heck there will be 600 Euro GTX 280 cards too, so the need for two 4870s to be faster than a single GTX 280 will remain, and vice versa

Perkam

[[XC] hipno650]

In benchmarks two 4850s should exceed the GTX 280

Perkam

what about games? time will tell on this one. the HD4850's should be faster than the GTX280 but the 512mb on the 4850 concerns me considering i have seen games use more than 512mb already. i suspect the Crossfire HD4850 will win at lower resolutions and with lower AA levels. but crank that AA and the resolutions and maybe some AF and the GTX 280 should come out on top. but for the Price the HD4850's are going to be very attractive.

[perkam]

what about games? time will tell on this one. the HD4850's should be faster than the GTX280 but the 512mb on the 4850 concerns me considering i have seen games use more than 512mb already. i suspect the Crossfire HD4850 will win at lower resolutions and with lower AA levels. but crank that AA and the resolutions and maybe some AF and the GTX 280 should come out on top. but for the Price the HD4850's are going to be very attractive.

2x 4850 = 1GB GDDR3, GTX 280 = 1GB GDDR3

Perkam

[ToTTenTranz]

Yep, I think HD4800 cards with 1GB will make more sense for crossfire, even if the memory is slower.

[STaRGaZeR]

The 4870 GDDR5 Super-Overclocked version maybe

Most should settle around the 265 area. Heck there will be 600 Euro GTX 280 cards too, so the need for two 4870s to be faster than a single GTX 280 will remain, and vice versa

Perkam

Haha that was good. In two or three weeks we'll talk again

[ANP !!!]

How will the 2x 4850 vs 4870X2 be ?, if 4850 CF is faster then single 4870X2. I will sell my board and get a DFI LT X48.

But I guess it wont be faster.