Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe (790FX) *Pictures + Benchmarks + Overclocking*

[SkullCracka]

Unganged is just alot harder on the chip to do, most voltage increases are due to the memory controller anyway. Think about why you can't overclock in 1066 unganged mode but if you set it back to ganged it clocks like a dream. Then check the difference between overclocking in 1066 vs like 533. Should overclock slightly more because the memory controller has less to worry about. Same thing will happen with 2x512mb sticks instead of 2x1gb sticks because there is less memory to address.

hmm well i gave up on vista64 for now LOL

check this out. i can boot @ upto 3.1 stock volts but really needs 1.375v to be stable. now is it the 32bit XP Pro or is it that i only have 2x1gb stick in there ??? hmmm




maybe ill reload vista tomorrow with only 2 sticks and find out.

[radaB]

Have you tried it with a single stick? I'm sure you'll get higher clocks.

[SkullCracka]

Have you tried it with a single stick? I'm sure you'll get higher clocks.

Nope.

but i have noticed higher fps in vista @ lower clocks. now is it the extra ram or 32 vs 64 bit ?? both maybe?? xppro does show higher benchmark scores.

but the truth is in the fps and how fast programs load.

so i think i will just leave both xp and vista on the machine and switch back and forth now and then.

[radaB]

but i have noticed higher fps in vista @ lower clocks.

Lower cpu clocks? How are the memory and HT clocks? The latter probly wont make any difference though unless you're running quad crossfire or something similar.

but the truth is in the fps and how fast programs load.

Yup. That's really the overall goal anyway.

[SkullCracka]

[QUOTE=radaB;3017955]Lower cpu clocks? How are the memory and HT clocks? The latter probly wont make any difference though unless you're running quad crossfire or something similar.QUOTE]


with ht and nb and ram at equal speeds. ht 2 2ghz nb 2ghz ram @ 1066.

so its mystery. higher benchmark scores in xp but slower opening aps and less fps. vista 64 lower benchmarkscores. but much faster at opening aps and more fps.


200 mhz higher in xp. now the benchmarks are close but still higher in XpPro.


i running dual crossfire with 3870's. no i cant see the diff in fps.(way above 30fps) the fps meter shows a diff. though. now the opening of ap speed is very obvious. enough to make a huge difference? Not really. just interesting to see the differences in xp and vista for myself.

[Oldguy932]

I think that might be because xp was optimized mostly for single core cpus and then vista was developed with multi core in mind. I'm probably wrong but that's what I think.

[MONSIX]

hello.... in amd overdrive what is the tmpin1, 2 and 3?
tmpin1 is for the cpu temp
tmpin2 is for the motherboard

but what is tmpin 3?

[radaB]

I'm guessing the northbridge, but not entirely sure really.

[SkullCracka]

ignore the tmpin#3

[radaB]

why? what is it?

[Oldguy932]

Its nothing important to worry about. If you can't see what it is in the bios, there's no point. I really wish they'd get a new bios out soon...

[SkullCracka]

in other words its a false reading. not used.

[SkullCracka]

Have you tried it with a single stick? I'm sure you'll get higher clocks.

yep i tried again in vista 1,2 stick does not make a difference. lowering the ram speed or the ganged unganged didnt make a diff either. 2.9 in vista 64 and 3.1 in xpPro is the max speed i can get stable on my curent air system.

[tbone8ty]

coolio! nice work guys keep it up

[Oldguy932]

Guys, I really think that putting a fan on the sb is a good idea. I have the fan from an AMD stock cooler blowing air onto the chipset nb. Temp2 in speedfan dropped from 40C down to about 38C-39C. I put like the mosfet fan from one of their ROG boards on the sb, temp drops to 34C. Should help out alot when you have to use the htt to clock higher. Not sure how it'll affect the max clock of 9850's cause right now my 9600 is in cause it runs at 38C load for 3ghz and 31C idle compared to an extra 5-7C with my 0811 9850 and I think at least 10C compared to my other 9850.

And if anyone really cares at this point, the wierd chipset options for the hypertransport only apply if you have a chip in that uses the HT 1.0 specification, none of it applies to phenoms. I found it in a techpaper on amd's site for writing bioses for phenoms.

[NaeKuh]

got this board on saturday for 99.90 @ frys. BnM only. Seems like asus is dropping this board, so frys is having a crazy clearance on it.

[Oldguy932]

Its a great board once you figure it out. Just got new memory finally. 261htt is now stable on my 9600. The 800mhz mem divider is a must for overclocking, adds a bit to temps but it increases the max stable htt for some reason. Right now I'm letting it crunch, probably try upping it in a little bit.

I don't think that they're dropping support so to speak, I think they'll be coming out with a new edition of it with SB750 on it.

[NaeKuh]

Its a great board once you figure it out. Just got new memory finally. 261htt is now stable on my 9600. The 800mhz mem divider is a must for overclocking, adds a bit to temps but it increases the max stable htt for some reason. Right now I'm letting it crunch, probably try upping it in a little bit.

I don't think that they're dropping support so to speak, I think they'll be coming out with a new edition of it with SB750 on it.

well... the guy at frys said, they only drop the price down this low when there dropping the board entirely.

The M2A was more expensive then the M3A which i didnt udnerstand. And not by a small margin either, about double the price!

As i said im not going to complain, i got the M3A for 99.90.

[Oldguy932]

Are you talking about the M3A or the M3A32-MVP Deluxe? That's the normal cost for the M3A I thought...

On the other hand, I now have my 9600 doing 11.5x265=3047 @ 1.2875v/1.3v with the nb and ht link both still at 9x. I have a screenie of it doing 264htt stable.



Its just amazing because before the max was only 11.5x262 and 265 was a lucky shot of booting to do benchmarks. Clocking with the memory set to 800mhz unganged works well, but I also have the channel interleave set to Xor of bits 16 and 9 instead of the default 16 and 6 but I dunno if that would affect clocking or not. Here are all the settings I remember...

HTT = 265
CPU Multi = 11.5
NB Multi = 9
HT Link = 9
Processor-CPU Voltage = 1.2875v
Processor-NB Voltage = 1.3v
VDDA Voltage = Auto
Northbridge Core Voltage = 1.3v
Memory Voltage = Auto
Memory Divider = 800mhz
Memory Timings = 5-5-5-15-2T
Bank Interleave = Enabled
Channel Interleave = Xor of bit 16, 9
Unganged Mode = Enabled
Map around Memory Hole = Enabled
TLB Fix - Disabled

If you want any other ones listed just ask. These are just the main ones I think you guys would want to know.

[NaeKuh]

Oldguy, im talking about the M3A-MVP DLX Wi/Fi.

<i should take pictures of the board and spider setup soon>

Comes in a green box, and has that funky ram cooler which screws onto the Northbridge.

Im telling you, at frys right now they only cost 99.90 if you can find them.

The store manager, i know frys workers dont know jack, but i figure they know inventory, told me, they are never getting this board in again. If it breaks within my 30 day return, i cant even return it for a swap, i would have to deal with the ASUS directly, because the board will no longer be available. :\

[HanmoLi]

Okay I am having the biggest headaches right now with my setup:
- Phenom 9850 (heatsink is Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme)
- M3A32-MVP Deluxe (hence why I'm posting in this thread) (1002 bios)
- OCZ 2x2gb PC2-6400 5-4-4
- Corsair 620W
- Radeon HD3850 (Catalyst 8.5)
- 500gb sata hdd

While running vista ultimate 64 sp1, I keep getting BSOD's once every few hours. They have been STOP errors with 0x00000050, 0x0000001A, 0x00000101, etc. I thought it was caused by faulty ram, so I've swapped the ram, but the problem persists (memtest didn't show any errors). I even RMA'ed the phenom 9850, and they shipped it back to me because they tested it and it was functioning properly. I'm not even overclocking anything yet, and it's giving me all this trouble. The bios settings are pretty much all stock or auto, so maybe something is not right?

Does anyone have any similar situations or have any solutions? This is hair-pulling frustration...

[eleeter]

Does anyone have any similar situations or have any solutions? This is hair-pulling frustration...

Does the system blue screen under load, at idle, random? What CPU voltage does the BIOS report and also inside Windows using CPU-z or some other app?

[HanmoLi]

Does the system blue screen under load, at idle, random? What CPU voltage does the BIOS report and also inside Windows using CPU-z or some other app?

I get blue screens under both load (crunching) and idle... so pretty much at random. I had originally left the Vcore in the bios at auto, but by setting it at 1.25V, I am getting less BSOD's for some reason. cpu-z is reporting 1.232V. I've tried higher at 1.30 and 1.325, but I get more BSOD's. Load temperature is about 44C according to OCCT. Idle temp is about 37C.

[SkullCracka]

I get blue screens under both load (crunching) and idle... so pretty much at random. I had originally left the Vcore in the bios at auto, but by setting it at 1.25V, I am getting less BSOD's for some reason. cpu-z is reporting 1.232V. I've tried higher at 1.30 and 1.325, but I get more BSOD's. Load temperature is about 44C according to OCCT. Idle temp is about 37C.

if you havent allready turn off microcode update on the cpu set up screen hit F4. then you will see microcode update.

then on the manual set up screen make sure cpu tweak is on. also set your ram voltage. are you also sure about those ram timmings 5-4-4???

update to 1002 bios aswell if you havent allready. everything else in bios can be left alone.

[Oldguy932]

I normally set everything manually in the bios even if I'm not doing an overclock. Try setting the cpu multi and nb multi the right settings and also the ht link. Then set processor cpu voltage and processor nb voltage to 1.25v. When you boot up, I recommend running cinebench 10 for a quick stability check. If the graphics test is slower than normal, the nb voltage needs a bump. If it freezes, then the cpu needs a bump. If it makes it through fine then try crunching. I've found that best stability comes from using 2x1gb sticks at the 800mhz divider.