A short story behind Corsair Dominator @ DDR3-2462 CL9

[Sadhiq]

On the first bench you used vPLL = 2.30v for max frequency, on the 4hrs of Orthos, much less, it doesn't seem to have that big influence ?!

[dinos22]

i did some testing last night on these new sticks

far out man >>> this ram kicks arse

and not just CAS9 fellas
i'm talking about CAS8 and CAS7 as well

[dinos22]

And we are the ones who don't support the enthusiast on the forum

tooting ones own horn LOL

Tony your opinion no longer interests me after the poor form you and your friends have shown me on another forum recently

i am getting my posts deleted on a forum owned by one of the guys from Anandtech because you cannot take an argument about some stupid theory you guys are trying to sell to us "dumb forum land people" and cannot back it up with more than a handful of examples.

I read and respect people's opinions on forums. You go insulting people because you think forum members at XS have nothing to contribute.

talk about poor form

[Tony]

Tony your opinion no longer interests me after the poor form you and your friends have shown me on another forum recently

i am getting my posts deleted on a forum owned by one of the guys from Anandtech because you cannot take an argument about some stupid theory you guys are trying to sell to us "dumb forum land people" and cannot back it up with more than a handful of examples.

I read and respect people's opinions on forums. You go insulting people because you think forum members at XS have nothing to contribute.

talk about poor form

I know of over 20 CPU's killed with VTT over 1.45V, so poor form or not im advising end users who pay hard earned cash top buy their CPU's to be careful with them.

I know of 2x9770's 2x9650's 1x9550 and the rest were dual cores, in fact some were from a system builder who sells pre over clocked systems.

So no poor form man, the truth....when ever I add input to an argument its because I feel a need to to ensure end users do not end up feeling robbed or abused by the hardware they have bought.

You are a prime example of believing what you read on a forum, I am sorry man but I deal with people outside forums who do just the same things but on a MUCH larger scale...sometimes hundreds of boards with hundreds of CPU's and hundreds of pairs of dimms.

Lastly, I did not delete your post off OCX, i would have responded with the same post their if I could although I do know the basics of what you posted.

I live in a totally different world to you, I live in a world that advises the forums and guides the technology, hence why I was advising caution.

[metro.cl]

It's me aaaagaaaain! I hope you haven't had enough of it yet...

So, I took a week off from torturing this 2133C9 set and decided to come back today, to push it even more, looking for another milestone in ORTHOS / Prime95 stability on DDR3.

In a mid-time, Asus sent the latest beta BIOS last week. I want to add however, that 0401 BIOS did just as well for this new result. For the curious ones, new BIOS creates a separate sub-menu for Skew Control, with per DIMM skew tuning of for command, clock and control (CMD/CLK/CLK) signals in 25ps steps. Also, one can now play with skew of CMD signal at Command Rate 1N, which was not possible before - option was greyed out. But we enthusiasts want to play with all the knobs, right?

I would like to emphasize, that Asus engineers have been great in listening to suggestions for and implementing some of them so far. There are still a couple more things I would like to see in the next official BIOS that I have seen earlier, though. All that effort, makes Asus P5E3 Premium hands down the best to date motherboard for serious DDR3 overclocking on Intel chipset, period!

OK, enough! I really wanted to share what I woul;d consider quite a milestone

4hrs ORTHOS Blend at DDR3-2200 CL9 1T, BIOS 0503
This time, I also went with C2D E8500. Previously I used C2D E8400

vPLL = 1.80v   
vFSB = 1.30v
vDD = 2.02v     
vNB = 1.71v       
vSB = Auto

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Dual SuperPi32M & Everest Ultimate @ as above, BIOS 0503

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Where did you get bios 503? for me 402 sucks so much.

[bachus_anonym]

On the first bench you used vPLL = 2.30v for max frequency, on the 4hrs of Orthos, much less, it doesn't seem to have that big influence ?!

For 600FSB+ brute force of high PLL was necessary in order to boot from BIOS, and into Windows. At 533FSB, AUTO PLL (1.83v when measured) was plenty enough, and could go down to 1.56-1.60v without loosing stability. For 550FSB ORTHOS, I just left it alone at AUTO.

i did some testing last night on these new sticks

far out man >>> this ram kicks arse

and not just CAS9 fellas
i'm talking about CAS8 and CAS7 as well

I'm very glad, Dino! I hope to see your results soon. What are you running them on - 790i. X48 or P45? Thanks!

Where did you get bios 503? for me 402 sucks so much.

ASUS, of course. From my experience, currently official 0401 is a very good BIOS. I'm sure I don't have to tell you anything as you've been already running high speeds on X48, but stick with 0401 for now, and play with CPU GTL Ref as well as skewing signals. It's a solid BIOS, and a lot can be acomplished on this motherboard without any hardware modifications at all

Skewing signals per DIMM implemented in 0503 is mainly an attempt to figure out how far 4-up configuration could be pushed on this motherboard, but also improving stability of A1 & B1 DIMM sockets (orange ones) at very high frequencies. There is good indication it might help...

[Movieman]

Tony your opinion no longer interests me after the poor form you and your friends have shown me on another forum recently

i am getting my posts deleted on a forum owned by one of the guys from Anandtech because you cannot take an argument about some stupid theory you guys are trying to sell to us "dumb forum land people" and cannot back it up with more than a handful of examples.

I read and respect people's opinions on forums. You go insulting people because you think forum members at XS have nothing to contribute.

talk about poor form

I know of over 20 CPU's killed with VTT over 1.45V, so poor form or not im advising end users who pay hard earned cash top buy their CPU's to be careful with them.

I know of 2x9770's 2x9650's 1x9550 and the rest were dual cores, in fact some were from a system builder who sells pre over clocked systems.

So no poor form man, the truth....when ever I add input to an argument its because I feel a need to to ensure end users do not end up feeling robbed or abused by the hardware they have bought.

You are a prime example of believing what you read on a forum, I am sorry man but I deal with people outside forums who do just the same things but on a MUCH larger scale...sometimes hundreds of boards with hundreds of CPU's and hundreds of pairs of dimms.

Lastly, I did not delete your post off OCX, i would have responded with the same post their if I could although I do know the basics of what you posted.

I live in a totally different world to you, I live in a world that advises the forums and guides the technology, hence why I was advising caution.

Dino and Tony;
From someone that has spoken to both of you and respects both of you for your accomplishments can I suggest that what happens on another forum not be used as a reason to argue here?
I'm not so naive as to not understand the politics of sites and the ego's that come into play at the top level of our hobby but it seems to me that sometimes the cart gets put before the horse.
If we are here to learn and all profit from that then it must be done in a friendly atmosphere even if times we have to bite our tongues before responding.
I have said over and over that it has to be friends first for all of this to work and I beleive that strongly.
I'm not writing this as a mod here but as a forum member who has learned from people like yourselves and appreciates the spirit of giving that exists here.
Thanks for reading.

[dinos22]

I'm very glad, Dino! I hope to see your results soon. What are you running them on - 790i. X48 or P45? Thanks!

i am running them on 790i with P05 bios..............i must say that none of my intel boards with ddr3 can even do 2000MHz on RAM let alone any higher so the only way for me to really test these properly is on the best platform for Intel >> nvidia 790i

i benchmarked 2D/3D at stock first so 1066MHz CAS9 ..............how cool is 790i....slap 400MHz FSB and 1066MHz on RAM and way you go........no need for crazy tweaking you'd need on Intel and in my opinion most P35/X38 chipsets won't even be able to handle such speeds and if Intel don't fix A2 silicone in P45 you are not going to see that chipset hit such speeds either.....X48 will probably be the only chipset only on selected motherboards that may be able to hit these clocks in large numbers....

......on another note.....CAS9 is OK and all but what can these ICs do on tighter timings as i want to use them during benching sessions

so i did some CAS8 benchmarks >>> and 1050MHz was easy (easier than my Micron based modules) @ 8-8-8-20 1T 32M SuperPi and even tight subtimings and 3D

it also did great at CAS7 benching at 925MHz 7-7-7-20 1T as well

i'll knock up a quick thread to show some videos for users tuning their reference 790i boards with these sticks...should help a few ppl hopefully

[yankee]

@ bachus and dinos: Great stuff, keep pushin, always!

[splmann]

Hello everybody ,

I would like to share my little experience with this Wonderfull Memorys ! This was only a Quicktest.


cl 7-7-7-20


cl 8-8-8-20


cl 9-9-9-24

Sorry Suicide with BlackOps !!




http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=376613



Regards

splmann

[saaya]

nice results splmann!
did you play with the dll options?
what settings did you use?
what slots did you use?

dinos and tony, cant we all get along?

[Yellowbeard]

dinos and tony, cant we all get along?

Saaya, I have been so busy I did not pay attention to your job change.

Congratulations!

[saaya]

thanks
the change of job wasnt a big deal, but moving to asia sure was and is
its hard to believe, but yes, there are places on this earth with crowds of people who speak no work of english
im good with languages, but chineese... damn

[dinos22]

i was surprised how little English ppl speak in Taiwan
even at places you'd think they'd have some idea like hotel receptionists, cabbies etc heheheh

definitely lots of pretty women over there hehehehe

[dinos22]

dinos and tony, cant we all get along?

it's not really a big deal
it was a bit of a misunderstanding actually
i'm not really dirty with anyone direct

[saaya]

i was surprised how little English ppl speak in Taiwan
even at places you'd think they'd have some idea like hotel receptionists, cabbies etc heheheh

yeah... and its really cut of from the rest of the world... there are 0 international news here on tv or in the newspapers...

definitely lots of pretty women over there hehehehe

yes, loooots of pretty, but barely any beauties.
but thats fine with me its hard to find an outspoken open minded girl over here tho, they are all into this "hihi im so shy hihi" stuff which is kinda fun but... come on... were not in junior high anymore

only in asia will you find 50 year old women dressing like teenagers and giggling around and talking and moving like they are 12... crazy

back on topic, where the hell are your results dinos????

[dinos22]

yeah... and its really cut of from the rest of the world... there are 0 international news here on tv or in the newspapers...

yes, loooots of pretty, but barely any beauties.
but thats fine with me its hard to find an outspoken open minded girl over here tho, they are all into this "hihi im so shy hihi" stuff which is kinda fun but... come on... were not in junior high anymore

only in asia will you find 50 year old women dressing like teenagers and giggling around and talking and moving like they are 12... crazy

back on topic, where the hell are your results dinos????

i am getting a crazy visual here of 50yo women doing that

results >> i'm on holidays for 2 months
one last LN2 session this weekend with my PC10000 Dominators and Biostar board and then i get to clear my head a little

i'll be back in full force in September....got a couple of Tek4 slims as well to get into 3D a bit more seriously

[saaya]

nice, enjoy your vacation then
maybe i can find some time to post some 2133ES results then

and if you want, i can actually upload a clip of some of those 50yo girls for you
there are plenty of them working in my office and the other offices around
the funny thing is asians always look way younger than they are, its eally hard to guess peoples age her, they all have really nice skin which is why i guess... but when you see a giggling "girl" dancing around that already has some grey hairs in her pigtails you know shes not 12