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    Just put the card on ebay, 9900GTX here I come!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milos-stancene View Post
    I dont wanna buy new PSU because 50 Watt .... !!!!
    I think you should anyway, its not such a geat psu
    I suggest u the PCP&C silencer 750W or the Silverstone Zeus 750w as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luka_Aveiro View Post
    Possibly yes, but you should consider buying a PSU that can offer a maneuvering margin to one that is pushed to the limit.
    I agree with this assertion. Thats a 250W card, leaving you with only 10-12A available for everything else that runs on it.

    Get a new PSU.

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    I'm willing to bet my Seasonic S12-500W will run the E8400 and the GTX 280 just fine, I ran a RTHDRBL + Prime95 torture test with a 3.4ghz 1.4v Q6600 and overclocked 8800GTX for a few hours last year with ZERO issues. Wattage requirements are grossly overstated to get you to buy you don't need. My E8400 is using 100-150W tops + another 250W from the GTX 280 will put it right at peak of my PSU's efficiency curve. Quality>quantity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit93 View Post
    I'm willing to bet my Seasonic S12-500W will run the E8400 and the GTX 280 just fine, I ran a RTHDRBL + Prime95 torture test with a 3.4ghz 1.4v Q6600 and overclocked 8800GTX for a few hours last year with ZERO issues. Wattage requirements are grossly overstated to get you to buy you don't need. My E8400 is using 100-150W tops + another 250W from the GTX 280 will put it right at peak of my PSU's efficiency curve. Quality>quantity.
    Though I think you are correct in your situation (solely b/c of the brand), there are other things running aside from your CPU and GPU on teh 12v rail, the mobo for an example. Not to mention there are items on the 3.3 and 5v that, in a lot of PSU's, take away from the max output of the 12v rail.


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    RV770 only can compete with G92b 55nm, because we know GT200 will
    be a Monster both in graphs/performance quality and Hot as hell... smells like
    barbecue to me, hope not.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MrHydes View Post
    RV770 only can compete with G92b 55nm
    Cool You must have insider info !!

    Please share

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    Quote Originally Posted by perkam View Post
    Cool You must have insider info !!

    Please share

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    not really, but it's obvious amd's offer becomes mid-end with GT200 on the road
    exception for the Dual RV770 of course.

    old stuff check out: http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7765.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by MrHydes View Post





    Aqua Computer Launches Aquagrafx G200 for GeForce GTX 280 and 260 Video Cards

    With NVIDIA's next generation video cards just around the corner, German water cooling expert Aqua Computer has decided to launch a video card water block that will fit on reference NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 graphics cards. Supposedly, the water block will suit on GeForce GTX 260 cards too, but this information is not confirmed. Just like every other Aqua creation, the Aquagrafx G200 is a full-cover all copper block with G1/4" connectors and channels optimized for very low flow resistance. Now we only have to wait for the cards to come, until then this GPU block is not applicable. No word on pricing and availability yet.

    source: Aquacomputer

    I guess you all allready know that GT200 will be GEFORCE GTX 280 and 260 and G92b actually will be 9900 in 55nm


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    Quote Originally Posted by RealTelstar View Post
    I think you should anyway, its not such a geat psu
    I suggest u the PCP&C silencer 750W or the Silverstone Zeus 750w as well.
    500 watt liberty is a decent PSU... just let him try it before going broke on wattages... I bought a Galaxy 1kw PSU to run SLI on 8800GTX , think the demand in wattage was so overrated, as that rig also ran fine powered by an Enermax Liberty 620... we will have to see when the reviews pop up what the real demands are... in case of instability it might be his PSU that borks out... only time will tell

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrHydes View Post
    Aqua Computer Launches Aquagrafx G200 for GeForce GTX 280 and 260 Video Cards

    With NVIDIA's next generation video cards just around the corner, German water cooling expert Aqua Computer has decided to launch a video card water block that will fit on reference NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 graphics cards. Supposedly, the water block will suit on GeForce GTX 260 cards too, but this information is not confirmed. Just like every other Aqua creation, the Aquagrafx G200 is a full-cover all copper block with G1/4" connectors and channels optimized for very low flow resistance. Now we only have to wait for the cards to come, until then this GPU block is not applicable. No word on pricing and availability yet.

    source: Aquacomputer

    I guess you all allready know that GT200 will be GEFORCE GTX 280 and 260 and G92b actually will be 9900 in 55nm
    Repost repost repost.

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=188698
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=188821
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=188859

    Also, where do you get your info that rv770 will loose, benchmarks? Insider?
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    I might do what someone has already mentioned and avoid the inital price gouge. No pressing need here.
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    I am building a new system around late June so i'm going to get owned by the price gouge!

    Hopefully the GTX 260 will be affordable. I think 350-400 euro ($550-630) would be a good price

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    LOL Scroll down for official GTX 260 specs!!!!!!!























































    http://www.sunocoinc.com/Site/Consum...noco260GTX.htm
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    *Warning* the INQUIRER *Warning*

    http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...0-280-revealed

    The 280 has 240 stream processors and runs at a clock of 602MHz, a massive miss on what the firm intended. The processor clock runs at 1296MHz and the memory is at 1107MHz. The high-end part has 1G of GDDR3 at 512b width. This means that they are pretty much stuck offering 1G cards, not a great design choice here.

    The 280 has 32ROPs and feeds them with a six and eight-pin PCIe connector. Remember NV mocking ATI over the eight-pin when the 2900 launched, and how they said they would never use it? The phrase 'hypocritical worms' come to mind, especially since it was on their roadmap at the time. This beast takes 236W max, so all those of you who bought mongo PSUs may have to reinvest if they ever get three or four-way SLI functional.

    The cards are 10.5-inch parts, and each one will put out 933GFLOPS. Looks like they missed the magic teraflop number by a good margin. Remember we said they missed the clock frequencies by a lot? Here is where it must sting a bit more than usual, sorry NV, no cigar.

    The smaller brother, aka low-yield, salvage part, the GTX260 is basically the same chips with 192 SPs and 896M GDDR3. If you are maths-impaired, let me point out that this equates to 24 ROPs.

    The clocks are 576MHz GPU, 999MHz memory and 896MHz GDDR3 on a 448b memory interface. The power is fed by two six-pin connectors. Power consumption for this 10.5-inch board is 182W.

    This may look good on paper, but the die is over 550mm, 576 according to Theo, on the usual TSMC 65nm process. If you recall, last quarter NV blamed its tanking margins on the G92 yields.

    How do you fix a low yield problem? Well, in Nvidia-land, you simply add massive die area to a part so the yields go farther down. 576 / 325 = 1.77x. Hands up anyone who thinks this will help them meet the margin goals they promised? Remember, markets are closed Monday, so if you sleep in, no loss.

    The 260 will be priced at $449 and go up against the ATI 770/4870 costing MUCH less. The 280 will be about 25 per cent faster and quite likely lose badly to the R700, very badly, but cost more, $600+.
    LMAO, they prefaced their prediction with "quite likely" then stated the 280 would "lose very badly" uncertainty and strong predictions are typically mutually exclusive... Still, I'll believe it when I see it. If true no jagon would buy a $600 card that gets it's arse kicked by a $350 card.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy22 View Post
    *Warning* the INQUIRER *Warning*

    http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...0-280-revealed



    LMAO, they prefaced their prediction with "quite likely" then stated the 280 would "lose very badly" uncertainty and strong predictions are typically mutually exclusive... Still, I'll believe it when I see it. If true no jagon would buy a $600 card that gets it's arse kicked by a $350 card.
    R700 is not RV770.

    R700 is the dual GPU of RV770

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    Sounds like a ton of biased bull but wait that's all the Inquirer publishes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy22 View Post
    If true no jagon would buy a $600 card that gets it's arse kicked by a $350 card.
    Unfortunately that will not happen.
    And with mid to high AA/AF levels, the gap will be even bigger.
    Considering that a gamer who gets 350$ out of his pocket wants to play with full details and AA/AF, the high end sector is green once again.
    I'd really like ATi to come really close to or even surpass nVIDIA this round ( when I game I game with AA/AF, my eyes are too picky , so yes, I'm talking about AA/AF enabled ) for the sake of healthy competition & our pockets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adamsleath View Post

    updating graphics: the horror.........the horror...
    god brando got old

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    HAHAHAHA. Anyone else notice this?
    The smaller brother, aka low-yield, salvage part, the GTX260 is basically the same chips with 192 SPs and 896M GDDR3. If you are maths-impaired, let me point out that this equates to 24 ROPs.
    D for DUMB@$$! That equates to 28 ROPS as nvidia's ROPs are directly related to the memory controler, meaning 448/64=7 clusters of 4 ROPs, which means 28 ROPs.


    Ohh inquirer, you never fail to amaze me and my maths skillz (being in calculus as a 15 year old never hurts either).


    Personally I think he didn't realize that the performance of the 240 gt200 shaders != to 240 g80 shaders. So if that was the case, with the law of deminishing returns, I could see him being partially right, but a core of 1296? My d9gkx can't hit that!


    Guys don't consider half of what that article says, my estimate is that judging by the folding performance of the gtx 280 (and how companies love to give out numbers no one else seems to be able to get before they launch), I'd say the gtx 280 and 4870x2 will be very close in performance (gt200 having a slight lead), probably closer than nvidia will like because of how bad their yields will be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by madcho View Post
    R700 is not RV770.

    R700 is the dual GPU of RV770
    True, I glanced over it assuming they were comparing single GPU cards...

    @ AliG

    Don't kill the messenger... I just thought others might like to read(laugh at) that garbage.

    Did he flip the core and shader clocks?


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    http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...0-280-revealed

    doesnt sound very promising, not at all

    if thats true that card isnt going to have a long life...
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    That's possible, if it was only a 2x shader domain (can't see it being 2.5x as core clock would be too low), in which case that means the core is at 648mhz, which is far more reasonable. But if the gt200 shaders are only at 1296mhz, that means there's a chance they may not actually bring the performance boost we're expecting regardless of how much more efficient they are

    Any don't worry I wasn't shooting the messenger, just farting fireballs at Charlie's left niple


    And seriously people, please read the page before posting something, the 4xxx series thread has like 5 of the same links in some cases (just a thought)
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    jep, those clocks really suck

    thats 24% less in comparison to the 9800gtx
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    Not to mention the 9900gtx will probably be somewhere close to 2ghz shader with the g92b core and will definitely oc better than gt200
    Quote Originally Posted by Hans de Vries View Post

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    That's right guys, keep your hopes down.
    The lower your expectations become, the bigger the excitement with the first numbers
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