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    looking forward to these.
    one of these 48xx and maybe a new gtx thingy for my 2nd peecee. sometime soon mehopes.
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    Will one of these cards then be what I finally upgrade to from my x1950xt? That x1950xt has just held out too well for me to really bother spending the money so far
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    these specs are the same posted here ??? >> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=818


    Quote Originally Posted by w0mbat View Post
    The specifications just look very, very wrong.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mascaras View Post
    these specs are the same posted here ??? >> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=818






    regards
    so repeating a lie makes it right?

    OK so now i say the sky is green, and i post this in different forums, and some newssites and then it must be true.

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    maybe there wont be any 48XX cards ; but if there are then the specs are whatever they end up being.
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    lower gpu speeds than i thought...
    4ghz gddr5.... wow...

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    Quote Originally Posted by saaya View Post
    lower gpu speeds than i thought...
    4ghz gddr5.... wow...
    qimonda also has 4,5ghz gddr5 in the pipeline.

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    here we go again, sigh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perkam View Post
    As for the price, I'm predicting:

    HD 4870 X2 ?? ?? ??
    HD 4870 1GB GDDR5 $349
    HD 4870 512 GDDR3 $300
    HD 4850 512 GDDR3 $250
    HD 4850 256 GDDR3 $225

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    Yea I also predict prices to end up like that. Which I think would give ATI at least a few months - half year nice sales numbers in performance section until performance segment is filled out with GT200 chips as I bet these 4xxx cards will perform a bit better than G92/G92b while NVIDIA will probably dominate the highend section with GTX 260 and 280 which I think will end up as $450 and $550 pricetag and I bet ATI will get more profit per card than NVIDIA if prices would be around those levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AliG View Post
    No the lack of texture power was the biggest blow imo, this time around it'll have more than enough shader power for aa and hopefully enough TMUs (I personally would have liked to see the 64 g92 has, but that's just me), but only time will tell.
    at least they got a bump. but not bumping the rops?? another problem with this many shadders is games are not coded to use them well. so yes 3dmark will fly but real games will see less of an increase until games code for the mass of shadders. and yes i do agree that the Number of TMU's will be a problem but at least they got doubled but they are still far behind nividia's count.
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    Quote Originally Posted by perkam View Post
    Check the NH article, this was supposed to be under NDA but leaked by Hardware Infos.

    The only thing not certain are the final clocks, everything else is as it is in the document.

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    that doesn't mean anything. I can tell you that i've been under an NDA and show u some fancy pictures too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Sz View Post
    that doesn't mean anything. I can tell you that i've been under an NDA and show u some fancy pictures too...
    Then what MEANS something really? Let me answer for you: nothing. Am I correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Sz View Post
    that doesn't mean anything. I can tell you that i've been under an NDA and show u some fancy pictures too...
    Credibility.

    That is what makes the difference. It is the reason a newbie posting a 6Ghz Intel quad core pic would be shunned for being a photoshopper, but when hipro puts one on XS, you KNOW its real, because, as an extreme legend, you can trust what he posts.

    I do not know about hardware infos, but NH is a credible site, but that is not ruling the possiblity that it could be a plant by AMD, since Kinc from NH hasn't (or can't) post in this thread to confirm.

    We'll just have to wait and see, but a document as original as that is hard to call a fake seeing as both websites are staking their credibility on the line to confirm the specs, which means SOMETHING, not nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by w0mbat View Post
    Ok that's it, now I KNOW Marcus (kinc) has them

    Another note, 480SPs on single slot cooler for 4850 FTW

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    maybe this will finally be worthy of a crosfire-x setup (4870x2 + 4870)

    I'm just hope having a x-fire board pays off eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perkam View Post
    Ok that's it, now I KNOW Marcus (kinc) has them

    Another note, 480SPs on single slot cooler for 4850 FTW

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    AFAIK they dont have them right now but will get them soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [XC] gomeler View Post
    So one website says a confidential source has told them yadda yadda yadda, another website(Fudzilla) has mentioned final clocks, so NH divulges information they were told not to share? I should take this as fact because? If these are true then great but anyone can fake a document
    Actually, when Fuad posted the RV770Pro clocks, I got permission from the source to post the rest.

    Quote Originally Posted by w0mbat View Post
    AFAIK they dont have them right now but will get them soon.
    Indeed

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    When was the launch date again? I can't wait for the cards...errr I mean WR scores to be posted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 003 View Post
    If that's why their holding back then they are idiots!! Maybe they like being raped by nvidia though.
    I agree, they should have made the rv770xt have something like 32 ROPs and the rv770pro have half of them disabled, that would allow them to bring both a nice power envalope and also it would further seperate the 4870 and 4850, which I personally think needs to be done for them to sell more of both cards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AliG View Post
    I agree, they should have made the rv770xt have something like 32 ROPs and the rv770pro have half of them disabled, that would allow them to bring both a nice power envalope and also it would further seperate the 4870 and 4850, which I personally think needs to be done for them to sell more of both cards.
    why not somethink like a 4830 with the disabled functionallity you describe?
    4870 RV770 gpu, high clocks
    4850 RV770 gpu, medium clocks
    4830 RV770gpu, low clocks and some tiny bits disabled (like for exemple 16 rops)

    i think this would able them to get higher yields, get an enthusast part, get an high end card and a high midrange card

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    If the 4ghz ddr5 w/ 256mbit bus = ddr3 with 512mb bus, why pay more for the ddr5? Am I missing something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheKarmakazi View Post
    If the 4ghz ddr5 w/ 256mbit bus = ddr3 with 512mb bus, why pay more for the ddr5? Am I missing something?
    cause

    gddr5 with 256bit -> cheaper pcb, cheaper chip, more expensive ram

    gddr3 with 512bit -> expensive pcb, expensive chip, cheap ram.

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    DDR5 also has some sort of timing compensation built in (someone clarify this) so you don't have to worry so much about trace lengths.

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