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    care to share your settings?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkstormz View Post
    care to share your settings?
    These are my settings for 3.5Ghz (7x500) and 8GB on Max Formula running with RF bios 0403:

    Extreme Tweaker
    Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
    OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
    CPU Ratio Control : Manual
    - Ratio CMOS Setting : 7
    FSB Frequency : 500
    FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
    PCI-E Frequency: 110
    DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1000 (1:1)
    DRAM Command Rate : 2T
    DRAM Timing Control: Manual
    CAS# Latency : 5
    RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
    RAS# Precharge : 5
    RAS# ActivateTime : 15
    RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
    Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto (for 52, can't be set manually in bios)
    Write Recovery Time : 6
    Read to Precharge Time : 3

    Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
    Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
    Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
    Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
    Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
    Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
    Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

    Write to PRE Delay : 14
    Read to PRE Delay : 5
    PRE to PRE Delay : 1
    ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 6
    ALL PRE to REF Delay : 6

    DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
    Ai Clock Twister : Auto
    Transaction Booster : Manual

    Common Performance Level [9]

    Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
    Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
    Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
    Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
    Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
    Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
    Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
    Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
    Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
    Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

    CPU Voltage : 1.320 (CPU-Z)
    CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50v
    North Bridge Voltage : 1.65v
    DRAM Voltage : 1.80v
    FSB Termination Voltage : 1.50v
    South Bridge Voltage : 1.050v
    SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50v
    Loadline Calibration : Enabled
    CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
    North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
    DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
    DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
    DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto

    Advanced CPU Configuration:
    Everything Disabled

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    Sweet man!! I'll have to give that a go on my rig.. Any other bench's/gaming issues???
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    Quote Originally Posted by screwtech02 View Post
    Sweet man!! I'll have to give that a go on my rig.. Any other bench's/gaming issues???
    No issues here.

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    Very very nice Q6600 you got yourself Zucker2k m8

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    Thanks guys....

    Quote Originally Posted by Grnfinger View Post
    Very good!
    That is some very nice bandwidth score's on the wolfdale
    I might try out your setting on my quad, my vid is alittle lower than yours, how are the bandwidth score on the quad?
    These rams don' like tight timings but they're quite decent.... see below



    Quote Originally Posted by loc.o View Post
    Very very nice Q6600 you got yourself Zucker2k m8
    Thanks loc.o m8. Wish I was as extreme as you... haven't messed with LN2 or dry ice yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zucker2k View Post
    These are my settings for 3.5Ghz (7x500) and 8GB on Max Formula running with RF bios 0403:

    Extreme Tweaker
    North Bridge Voltage : 1.65v
    DRAM Voltage : 1.80v
    FSB Termination Voltage : 1.50v

    Advanced CPU Configuration:
    Everything Disabled
    I won't comment on NB voltage as high since you use high FSB on 8Gb RAM, and I suppose you tried to lower a notch, right? On the other side, VTT at 1.5v is about 25% out of intel specs, so as if you were giving your vcore some 1.875v

    Your vDDR voltage is impressingly low at 1000MHz, you got there great sticks. Giving them some 2.0 to 2.1v would be safe (unless the maximus overshoot them as it is known for...) and could give you some better clocks

    Overall, I can only say you got a great benchmarking performance there with 500 FSB on a quad + 8Gb RAM on the X38.

    But, I doubt it is the sweet spot for your setup. You have a good CPU and memory combo running high specs on low voltages. Your Q6600 will be safe with up to 1.45v real vcore and your memory could kick the 1200MHz at 2.10 safe voltage. Your CPU should easily be stable at 3.9GHz at an acceptable vcore (1.45-1.47v) which on 8x multi will give you 488FSB and 976MHz on the RAM at strap 333 or if you manage strap 266 stable you'd outpass 1200MHz on the RAM

    In the worst scenario (3.9GHz CPU, strap 333, memory at 976MHz), running the memory lower than 1000 MHz, you could tighten the timings, the TRFC or at least enable static read control and some more relaxed booster settings to get better bandwidth. Even at same memory settings than your actual 500FSB performance, the +400 MHz on the CPU will compensate the small decrease in memory bandwidth.

    Maybe you tried it all, but I'm certain, 8x480 to 8x488MHz is a better 24/7 setup in your case and should give you lower vNB and lower VTT
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny_ftm View Post
    Your Q6600 will be safe with up to 1.45v real vcore and your memory could kick the 1200MHz at 2.10 safe voltage. Your CPU should easily be stable at 3.9GHz at an acceptable vcore (1.45-1.47v) which on 8x multi will give you 488FSB and 976MHz on the RAM at strap 333 or if you manage strap 266 stable you'd outpass 1200MHz on the RAM
    Mehh this is 65nm Quad Q6600 not a 45nm architecture. So usually you can pump the vcore up to 1.55V with a good cooling. Though very high vtt is not recommended. Pump up the voltage until it dies...lololol rolftomato

    Still it an impressive result with a retail kits. Should be better if there a long prime or occt shots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparda View Post
    Mehh this is 65nm Quad Q6600 not a 45nm architecture. So usually you can pump the vcore up to 1.55V with a good cooling. Though very high vtt is not recommended. Pump up the voltage until it dies...lololol rolftomato

    Still it an impressive result with a retail kits. Should be better if there a long prime or occt shots.
    If you read well around, you'll understand that 1.45v with some vdroop bypass would overshoot for 1.55v
    Anyway, 1.45v is absolutely safe, 1.55v with overshoot will give you 1.65v so still within a 10% of intel specs and should be ok for some years with proper cooling
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    Q6600 G0 L740B126 Lapped, 2x1Gb Kingston HyperX DDR2-1200
    Gigabyte 8800 GTS 512Mb OC 756-1890-1000
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    WC: Swiftech H2O-Apex Ultra 220 GT + PA120.3 5v
    OCZ XTC RAM Cooler, HR-05 IFX + 80mm FAN (NB), 2x HR-09U type 2 (mosfets), Modded Zalman ZM NB-47J (SB), Arctic-Cooling MX-2
    Vista 32 bits
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    - ASUS P5K Premium bios 0612: (3.84GHz 8x480) @1.432v


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    - P5B Deluxe: 3.60GHz (9x400) @1.33v *** Old Setup (P5B deluxe)

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    How stable is this with prime, orthos or looped 3DMark?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speederlander View Post
    How stable is this with prime, orthos or looped 3DMark?
    Run P95 blend overnight for 7hrs 41 minutes before thread one crapped out.

    Edit: Will try again after some fine-tuning, got two other quads that do 500fsb easy so I'm playing with those now. 7:41 is pretty stable for me tho. Small ffts is cake walk; blend is the main thing with 8GBs as the NB is stressed more @ 1.65v+
    Last edited by Zucker2k; 05-17-2008 at 11:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zucker2k View Post
    Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto (for 52, can't be set manually in bios)
    Is this so? Why can't it be set manually in bios? The only way I could get a decent OC on the Maximus formula bios was to set this to 55 with 8gb of RAM.

    I'm Going to be pushing my new Q9550 and I'm thinking of converting to Rampage bios, but this could be a deal breaker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJR View Post
    Is this so? Why can't it be set manually in bios? The only way I could get a decent OC on the Maximus formula bios was to set this to 55 with 8gb of RAM.

    I'm Going to be pushing my new Q9550 and I'm thinking of converting to Rampage bios, but this could be a deal breaker.
    You answered your own question; the settings are in increments of 5, so, 40,45,50,55. The stock TRFC (SPD) for the G.Skills is 52. If you set TRFC to AUTO, the bios will pick up the 52.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zucker2k View Post
    You answered your own question; the settings are in increments of 5, so, 40,45,50,55. The stock TRFC (SPD) for the G.Skills is 52. If you set TRFC to AUTO, the bios will pick up the 52.
    aaah, thanks. I forgot about that. My default is 46 since these are the older OCZ sticks.

    I converted over the Rampage Bios. Any quick tips on how to duplicate your fsb with a 45nm chip?

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