Skulltrail Overclocking

[Movieman]

If I was to run @ 100% load 24/7, I would drop it to 400x10.

Im liking 420x10 now with MCH at 1.3v, no need to touch memory or AMD voltage as well. Im running near silent now and about to put the sides on again.

I think you out to stick it on WCG for a week at 4000 and see what the beast will do!
The Clovers do app 26K a day, we have a Yorkie on water at 4150 that does 21,500 a day.
Maybe 35-37K from that beast..

[Cupcake]

So, when is XS going to be hosted off a skulltrail system

Anyway wonderful results and setup

[my87csx481]

Sooooo....did this thing ever get put on WCG?

Just curious.

Are the boards going to be available through regular consumer sources? (I read somewhere, possibly here, that production is limited to 2000 pcs)

[STEvil]

ncix has boards

[Buckeye]

Thanks for the heads up there.

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...ufacture=Intel

But is a Skulltrail II coming out also ?

[atomman]

fugger,

two questions:

a. what mch waterblock are you using?
b. how are you running the extra 8pin cpu power - from Enermax's website it looks as though the 1000 only has one 8 pin cpu plug

thanks

[cadaveca]

psu has 2 plugs, 8-pin, one 4x4-pin.

[melanko]

I got to see this board and two QX9775's up close recently. Pretty awesome looking but pretty impractical for the price you have to pay to get them.

Let's add up the totals (according to Newegg):
(1,559.99 *2) for the CPU's + 659.99 for the mobo=
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$3779.97 USD - Shipping and taxes (if applicable).

That total alone equals my current computer budget times 6~.

[FuriousSalesman]

Is it possible to run a good skulltrail system with just 1 cpu?

[tom909]

planning to build a skulltrail system

intend to use 2 dual-core xeons, since dual cores are better to overclock than quad cores (if I ever need more cores then I will get a second such box)

intending to use two of the 3.4ghz x5272, 1600fsb

then, would like to up the bus speed from 400 to 450: 3.825ghz

then would like to up the multiplyer from 8.5 to 10 or 10.5: 450*10=4.5ghz, *10.5=4.725

or use the 3.33ghz x5260 1333fsb, also targeting 4.5 to 4.7ghz, with any combination of bus-upping and multiplyer-upping.

now I have heard that the skulltrail makes only a bus speed of max about 420. can that be true? I heared asus boards make easily 450. Is the quality of the intel board that much worse? hope its still possible to do 450. If not then I have to get an asus server board, and I think their bios does not support overclocking (fsb, multiplyer) of xeons as well as the skulltrail.

then, I am assuming the multiplyer of the xeons can be changed and are not locked, inferring that from the reference below.

this is using good air or water cooling

planning to do/join folding@home and running the machine 24/7 at the above settings, as well as doing my own simulations.
meaning, I will use the cheapest graphics card I can find, no sound, no monitor, ie no demand on graphics, or hard disk, and minimal demand on memory. I just need a big big calculator (also called computer)

if anyone done it before, I appreciate sharing experience

thanks


for ref

http://www.hothardware.com/Articles/...mance_Preview/

http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-41...overclock.html

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/33976/135/

http://techgage.com/article/building...trail_system/6

[Extera]

Best way to go for you is a more simple board and a good quadcore.
Skulltrail has slower memoryt then most other boards, and especially DDR3 board.

Also 3D performance is lot slower, don't know about the folding @ home performance on the new GPU client, and I don't know if you are going to use it. But buying a skulltrail and putting 2 dualcores in it, is like giving a ferrari to my bad... still slow.

[tom909]

Best way to go for you is a more simple board and a good quadcore.

I dont think so.

Skulltrail has slower memoryt then most other boards, and especially DDR3 board.

Its not memory intensive task.

Also 3D performance is lot slower, don't know about the folding @ home performance on the new GPU client, and I don't know if you are going to use it.

To repeat, its not a graphic intensive task.

But buying a skulltrail and putting 2 dualcores in it, is like giving a ferrari to my bad... still slow.

Why?

[Extera]

Why do you want to buy a $500 motherboard, and run it with just 2 dual cores?
Why NOT a normal board with a single quad?

I mentioned 3Dpower because folding @ home has release a client for folding on GPU's. I also mentioned I didn't know if you where going to use it.

Your tasks are not going to be memory and graphic intensive,... so you need only CPU power? Now tell me, why would you run 2 dualcore cpu's on a skulltrail platform rather then a single quad on a board that is half the price or less.

Anyway, this is topic hijacking.....

[TheKarmakazi]

Hijacked I know, but I agree 100% with Extera, just get a QX9650 and save yourself a few grand.

[tom909]

Why do you want to buy a $500 motherboard, and run it with just 2 dual cores?
Why NOT a normal board with a single quad?

since the quad does not overclock that well:
http://forums.extremeoverclocking.co...ighlight=e8500
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Ha...s/intel_e8500/
http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-37...rclocking.html
these are E8500 and the xeon X5272 is not much different, just tested for more, "robustness" in server (ie 24/7) environments.
the quads never reach this. obviously, if you pack 4 cores on one chip than spread out 2 cores onto 2 chips, using 2 air/water coolers. (the concept of "heatspreading")

I mentioned 3Dpower because folding @ home has release a client for folding on GPU's. I also mentioned I didn't know if you where going to use it.

I thought I said that.

Your tasks are not going to be memory and graphic intensive,... so you need only CPU power? Now tell me, why would you run 2 dualcore cpu's on a skulltrail platform rather then a single quad on a board that is half the price or less.

see above.
price: 650mobo + 2*1100proc + 250fbdimm = 3100
which is acceptable for me. compred to
300 + 1500 + 100 = 1900
its worth 1200 to me.

still, my questions are about the capabilities of skulltrail board, not to justify and argue with people about my reasons.

T

[Extera]

You want to spend 1200 dollar extra? Man.... My QX9650 runs fine @ 4,4ghz by the way, stable as a rock. On a tuniq tower 120.

The skulltrail's FSB is mostly limited by the ram I think. We managed to get the skull up to 430fsb stable, not much more then that.

Also, the xeons you want are not unlocked, if we had an unlocked wolfdale, we would have seen 6ghz al over the place.

For the 1200 dollar extra, you can buy yourself an very good single stage, and buy the electrical bill with the money you save. With an good single stage you can run about 4,8 to 5Ghz, bepending on your luck.

[WesM63]

Skulltrail is limited to the FBDIMM's. Fugger and Kingpin have some VERY good ones. Mostly what you can buy won't do much over 400mhz. Maybe 405mhz for double sided sticks, 420-450mhz for single sided.

So with any Xeon cpu, the higest o/c you can get is max multi x 400-450mhz FSB. For example, my setup runs 2x e5430's (8x333), the max o/c i could get is 8x400-450. (3.2ghz - 3.6ghz).

QX9775's are nice because of the unlocked multi.

[DarthBeavis]

While I <3 Kingpin and Fugger in a non-ghey way . . .they really need to go to a 12-step LN2 program . . .admitting you have an addiction is the first step to recovery . . .

[Planet]

While I <3 Kingpin and Fugger in a non-ghey way . . .they really need to go to a 12-step LN2 program . . .admitting you have an addiction is the first step to recovery . . .

They will do that the day you admit you have a modding problem.

[CometMan]

my god what a beast, this is really some impressive stuff

[smee]

Wow, great job Fugger and Kin|p|n!!!

Question though, what radiator(s) are you using to cool it?

[Movieman]

I'm trying guys..Not SkullTrail but Supermicro on air..

[Charles Wirth]

438 is a really good start.

Anything on memory timing?

[Movieman]

438 is a really good start.

Anything on memory timing?

2T-5-5-5-18-22

[atomman]

new skulltrail bios (1140) came out on the 21st

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Prod...ProductID=2864