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    Quote Originally Posted by SiGfever View Post
    Sounds like a plan. I was apprehensive about shipping it without some sort of cover to protect them, now I know why. Sorry for not including the specs, I assumed you recorded them from out first posts.
    It's hard to track 30 test subjects, 60 samples, and multiple posts. Some people post 2 or 3 sets of numbers from different systems. Kind of like picking the winning lottery number to put it together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tastymannatees View Post
    It's hard to track 30 test subjects, 60 samples, and multiple posts. Some people post 2 or 3 sets of numbers from different systems. Kind of like picking the winning lottery number to put it together.
    sounds like me!



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    Quote Originally Posted by littleowl View Post
    sounds like me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 123bob View Post
    I'll try some closed case temp tests shortly. One of the interesting things to try. I'm quite sure my case temps are higher. Of note is that I'm measuring ambient on this machine with a Radio Shack device taped to my front panel on the rack. This is not exactly what the inlet of farm-07 sees. It is however consistent to itself anyway. On Farm-09 all those ambient are reported using a small weather temp gauge at the inlet of the fan I have blowing across the board. This rig is on an open shelf so it's ambient is close to what the CPU and TRUE are really seeing.

    I know we are looking more for delta ambients here, so I'm not sure if it matters much. This is to compare our coretemp/realtemp numbers to so we can adjust them.
    for a case temp I usually put the sensor at the inlet of the heat sink fan. recirculation and heat from motherboard components can sometimes drive temps up 5C at the sink and temps can vary from one side to the other which is why Intel recommends multiple ambient readings that are then averaged.

    With water the temp it is usually a inlet water temp? I do not fool with water but that would be my guess.

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    As they come in I will be posting the contact/ pressure data


    Tuksonrider - 3.3 C improvement contact pressure result OCF

    Kingwin RVT-12025 (also known as a rebadged Xigmatek HDT-1283)

    Intel Q6600 (B3) @ 2.4GHz, 3.0GHz, 3.2GHz)
    Kingwin RVT-12025 Heatsink w/ 120mm fan (max rpm)
    *Note: Using a Thermalright 775 Bolt-Thru Mounting Kit
    eVGA 650i motherboard
    eVGA 8800GT 512MB Video
    Antec 900 case (closed)
    AMBIENT ROOM TEMP: 21C
    AMBIENT CASE TEMP: 24C
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    Bail_W 3.55C improvement
    Q6600 G0 @ 3.9ghz with 1.6v
    D-Tek Fuzion with backplate
    Asus P5k Deluxe
    Ambient temp 20C.
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    Hello there Mr. Tastee..
    Just some more non scientific info for you on your TIM
    Set up a dual harpertown yesterday.. X5482 Intel cpu's.
    Listed as 120w and they damned well are.
    All I had here was the so-so stock solid copper non heatpipe Intel HS's
    temps into the 80+C range..
    Two hours after install and with the addition of a 14" high speed fan blowing in I'm into the 40's-50's..
    The HS sucked BUT your TIM is doing one hell of a job transferring the heat.
    Oh yea, bumped them up to 3510 last night and they still didn't overheat.
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    Q6600 G0 @ 3.9ghz with 1.6v
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    Ambient temp 20C.
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    Sorry for my not-so-scientific first contribution, but here it is:

    Had a crappy QX9770 that ran hot as hell, after many remounts and tries I concurred that it suffered from bad internal heat transfer (between cores and IHS). It got into the 80's running prime SmallFFT at 4Ghz and 1,36V with an Apogee GTX + backplate, ~35C water loop with very good flow and AS5 (5+ mounts, no improvements).
    Obviously, it failed Prime after 30-60mins due to overheating. What I did was use a liquid metal pad, let the CPU idle and shut off the pump. As the temp went up to 100C and thermal throttling started, the pad melted and I restarted the pump. After that, I had temps of 72-73C on all cores at the exact same settings and that crappy CPU was finally stable. So I got an 8C improvement over AS5 from that pad (have had similar experiences earlier, always with crappy Quads).

    So if you don't feel like lapping, consider a liquid metal pad (they can be removed rather easily, unlike the liquid metal TIM)
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    SiGfever 2.65 loss in performance XSF

    Dtek FuZion WB (MX-2 TIM, large BB size dolop) (mounted 3/18/8, 15.5mm from top of knurled nut to top of the mounting plate) w/Backplate.
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    should have said 3 120mm fans on my MCR320QP rad.
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    Specs:
    Q6600 G0 vid = 1.2375
    Abit IP35 Pro v1.1 bios = 14
    Corsair 2 x 1Gb 6400c4 (5,5,5,15...1.9v)

    Settings:
    vcore listed: 1.4275v
    vcore real: 1.35v
    Buss Speed: 396
    vMCH: 1.29
    vICH: 1.09
    Multi: 9
    Core Speed: 3564
    CPU VTT: 1.23
    ICHIO: 1.55
    CpuGtlref 0/2: 68%
    CpuGtlref 1/3: 68%
    PCI-E Clock: 101
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    I edited my original specs, should have said 3 120mm fans on my MCR320QP rad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SiGfever View Post


    I edited my original specs, should have said 3 120mm fans on my MCR320QP rad.
    Noted

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    Once my new "R2D2" free standing a/c unit arrives (tomorrow) I plan on testing the TIM one more time against MX-2. I will be using the "Limiters" with the waterblock springs so each mount will be equal pressure.

    I will also be using Real Temp instead of Core Temp since it looks at the proper TJunction for our Q6600.
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    Well the a/c arrived today, broken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SiGfever View Post
    Well the a/c arrived today, broken.
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    Sample 26A Yellowhello HLF 2C Improvement

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    Here you go Intel spec on flatness for you lappers

    http://download.intel.com/design/pro...s/31685201.pdf

    page 32. flat .05mm -parallel .203

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    I did the pressure test on my main rig today. I also have a late result from my friends Athlon X2 machine; download the pdf.
    The pdf is a straight export from a template I made for my friend to make testing easier, but I have translated most of it. Obviously the CPU temp sensor reads too low, but as it's off by the same amount every time, I could calculate average temp drop from previous TIM to ICD7.

    A question to you tastyman, I could send my pressure test now, or wait until I am able to do the test on the second machine too. I could ship both pressure tests by the end of next week. Would it be better for you to have one result faster, or two results later?
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    Sample 5A Nebulous Post 249 OCF

    Current vcore: 1.28v @ 4.0GHz Water cooled with a Storm.

    Temps are:

    In Hardware Monitor:
    Idle: Core0= 42c? Core1= 36c
    Load: Core0= 49c Core1= 49c

    In RealTemp:
    Idle: Core0= 32c? Core1= 25c
    Load: Core0= 43c Core1= 43c


    Note edit final data later
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    Looks like he moved too much for that one to be accurate!



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    Quote Originally Posted by littleowl View Post
    Looks like he moved too much for that one to be accurate!
    Looks like the mail man danced on it. Prolly end up throwing that one out

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    Quote Originally Posted by tastymannatees View Post
    Looks like the mail man danced on it. Prolly end up throwing that one out
    nah looks like he had some trouble while mounting the HS on. kind of looks like he was almost clamped and it slid some.

    I got a nice package from you today but I didn't have time to work with it yet. I am hoping to work on it some tomorrow.



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    Talking Testing Photo !

    Here's a behind the scenes on my testing.
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    Looks like the proverbial "fat Cat"

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    Good afternoon Mr. Tastee.
    A little info for you.
    Assembled a dual Harpertown rig 2 days ago.
    2-X5482 cpus)3200/12mb/1600 and 120w volcanoes.
    All I had available to use was the stock Intel non heatpipe HS.
    Solid copper, app 2lbs each and nowhere as effective as the TRUE's that we use on the single socket boards.
    I have the machine up and running at 3500/12mb/1750 at 100&#37; load.
    Your TIM is handling this heat load excellently.
    My guess is those cpu's at this speed are in the 145-150w range and temps with a fan blowing in on those crappy HS are in the low 60's..
    Again, not scientific but real world and it just plain works.
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