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    With the super DQ6 from gigabyte coming out, it seems as if they've screwed that whole extra attachment onto the top of that northbridge heatsink.

    Which would render it effectively useless.
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    12 phase, 24 MOSFETs and 12 coils. It;s using the latest Intersil ISL6336CRZ 6 phase PWM; http://www.intersil.com/cda/devicein...ISL6336,0.html

    Two Silicon Image SiI5723 chips, two purple ports per chip; http://www.siliconimage.com/products...ct.aspx?id=103
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    Quote Originally Posted by virtualrain View Post
    Is that 6 or 12 phase power for the CPU... I'm confused.



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    12 cpu + 3 NB +3 Mem


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    What an awesome mobo, has HD file streaming and storage written all over it.
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    what a crap mobo.
    Great list of reasons there

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Dower View Post
    Also notice the old (and crappy) plastic push pins are back on the NB??...X38 featured metal spring screws to secure the NB heatsink better onto the PCB.
    It does the job. I prefer this method, would mean I could use my mcw30 without any problems or unused mounting holes.
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    You can't have 16x electrical in the second slot. It's only 8x. Marketing playing with eletrical and physical?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cegras View Post
    With the super DQ6 from gigabyte coming out, it seems as if they've screwed that whole extra attachment onto the top of that northbridge heatsink.

    Which would render it effectively useless.
    Super Dq6...pray tell?
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    Freaking Gigabyte.. This is a server mobo with a router with ... EVERY THING that you don't need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mascaras View Post
    12 cpu + 3 NB +3 Mem


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    I thought the NB and mem were using two phase?
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    I think the IDT chip is for the two 4x PCI-E slots....this mobo is not 16x-16x electrical so you can't run Crossfire at 16x on both cards, 8x-8x...yes. The PCB features four bios flash parts, two for the man/backup Gigabyte bios while the other two are serial flash chips for the SiliconImage controllers, thus it should be possible with the SteelVine software to flash the embedded bios/firmware when the user wants to.

    Thus far i am loving this board, it's my next purchase for sure...tons of features, tons of SATA and all the rest, layout seems solid.
    Last edited by Richard Dower; 05-01-2008 at 10:08 AM.
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    Guys, i think i found the IDT chip:

    http://www.idt.com/?partID=89HPES16T4G2ZABXG

    I made out alot of the code, 89HPES16T...then i spotted BXG, so this might be the chip. It's generation 2.0 PCI-E spec. thus it is 16x, it must control the two 4x slots and the 8x slot...making 16x, the top PCI-E slot is 16x...how many lanes does P45 have?

    It must be controlling the two 4x slots (8x lanes), then the PCI-E LAN chips...i see three on the PCB but the I/O shows four LAN ports, it must also be controlling the SATA ports as well and maybe the Silicon Image chips...that would eat 16x lanes easy.
    Last edited by Richard Dower; 05-01-2008 at 11:35 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Dower View Post
    Guys, i think i found the IDT chip:

    http://www.idt.com/?partID=89HPES16T4G2ZABXG

    I made out alot of the code, 89HPES16T...then i spotted BXG, so this might be the chip. It's generation 2.0 PCI-E spec. thus it is 16x, it must control the two 4x slots and the 8x slot...making 16x, the top PCI-E slot is 16x...how many lanes does P45 have?

    It must be controlling the two 4x slots (8x lanes), then the PCI-E LAN chips...i see three on the PCB but the I/O shows four LAN ports, it must also be controlling the SATA ports as well and maybe the Silicon Image chips...that would eat 16x lanes easy.

    P45 = 32 lanes


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    Quote Originally Posted by mascaras View Post
    P45 = 32 lanes


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    I like the DS5 better =/
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    For info on what that chip between the PCI-E slots does check this video:

    http://www.hexus.tv/show/2008/03/Bra...cial_features/

    Asus, MSI and Gigabyte are all using it to allow 2x 8x PCI-E slots in crossfire, the Intel specification for the P45 actually says one 8x slot, and one 4x slot for crossfire.

    So for any P45 board with 2x 8x PCI-E slots, it needs that extra chip for the extra 4 lanes.

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    board looks ok, i would never use more than 2lan ports and 4usb tho.

    i would like to see a review of the 12 phase power system.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Dower View Post
    12 phase, 24 MOSFETs and 12 coils. It;s using the latest Intersil ISL6336CRZ 6 phase PWM;
    Quote Originally Posted by mascaras View Post
    12 cpu + 3 NB +3 Mem
    Where do you find this to be confirmed? I read somewhere (I forget) that it is really only 6 phase CPU. I heard only ASUS actuallt uses full true 8 phase, not counting the 2 phase NB and 2 phase vdimm (so essentially the same 12 phase except for recent P5E3 premium on X48 wich is now offers 3 phase vdimm), yet they dont market it as 12 phase (or now 13).

    Quote Originally Posted by computerking View Post
    Freaking Gigabyte.. This is a server mobo with a router with ... EVERY THING that you don't need.
    Sort of if thats all you needed it for, or better yet a dual 2gb up/down streaming LAN for mega file transfering or gaming. You will indeed need at least one 4 port pouter just to use it or a big hub/switch to share with the rest of you workstations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gen View Post
    i would like to see a review of the 12 phase power system.
    Same here. I'm sure it's purely a Gigabyte marketing ploy to show a higher number to look more impressive over the rest or to out show ASUS's own true 8 phase. As far as I can see, it really only passes Abit's 5 phase so far, In CPU area. I'd like to how digital really compares to solid anolog like in DFI stuff, as they still use it on some high end models, the anolog PRM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bhavv View Post
    For info on what that chip between the PCI-E slots does check this video:

    http://www.hexus.tv/show/2008/03/Bra...cial_features/

    Asus, MSI and Gigabyte are all using it to allow 2x 8x PCI-E slots in crossfire, the Intel specification for the P45 actually says one 8x slot, and one 4x slot for crossfire.

    So for any P45 board with 2x 8x PCI-E slots, it needs that extra chip for the extra 4 lanes.
    Yes, but does the chip ADD addition lanes, or does it just convert lanes to a different format?, i.e. 8x-8x...it must also be controlling the two PCI-E 4x slots also.
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    lol another GB thread hehe

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Dower View Post
    I thought the NB and mem were using two phase?
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    I think it's controlled as 6 phase but there is double the components for each phase so it can deliver the power of 12 phase but is still only controlled by a 6-phase device... that's where the confusion is arising.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dinos22 View Post
    lol another GB thread hehe



    yup
    Another Gigabyte thread?...OKAY!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by virtualrain View Post
    I think it's controlled as 6 phase but there is double the components for each phase so it can deliver the power of 12 phase but is still only controlled by a 6-phase device... that's where the confusion is arising.


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    That is correct, thats why it's called virtual 12 phrase

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    OK....so, how are Asus offering native 16 phase on there new high end P45 board?

    Oh, and remember how Asus slammed GB for the DQ6 and 12 phase and how it wasn't nesscary?...oh how times have changed.
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    Not a mobo for people with case windows thats for sure. Unless you swing that way
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    same phases that was around forever already on the P35-DQ6 and later X38-DQ6, EXP38-DS4/DS5/DQ6, i only have P35-DS3P with the 6 phases and from what is on the forums at least the vDroop is smaller than on the Asuses P5E that has the 8 phase

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