Oh man, XGL and Compiz on Hardy give a pain!
Doesn't seem to like being uninstalled. Looks fine ATM, I have all the Compiz desktop effects working.

Quote Originally Posted by ChrisTucker2004 View Post
KTE:
Here is a Screenshot, my CPU runs maybe @ 3000mhz, but 1,55v is to high
http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=phenom29ur.jpg

An HT @ 280 is stable with a Multi of 5,75. I think that board is buggy but good
Very good for one of those - stable?
280HT is max (if not, what is, try it)?

Can your friend with the 780a tell us if it has CPU-NB Multi and CPU-NB volt options in BIOS?

Quote Originally Posted by Rammsteiner View Post
Oh lol, I linked in another thread the discussion about this new board to you lol.
But you already saw it.

AFAIK late May to early June is the "planned" date for that and 790GX but that's not hard info.
Anyway, I wonder if the 'issues to run 3Ghz' are like, 3Ghz unstable, not able to get upto 3Ghz at all (like me) etc. I mean, Im still having problems to get 2.7Ghz without freezing... So I wonder if the board would fix 1) the freezing and 2) eventual the scaling?
Kinda doubt that. Because there's a point where the CPU just will not go, and mine is at around 317xMHz. It'll fly all the way up to 3GHz on 1.3v but then you have to add 1.38v for 3100MHz and suddenly, things start to crash and the limit is very easily seen - it just does not boot fully.

If it's a CPU limit, then it just won't go there.
If it's possible something other, it will go there fine, bench it, load test fine - but not stable for daily use. It might even have runs where it doesn't crash for 2 days, mine did it for 5 days, a record but it was still unstable. A simple boot after leaving off for 7 days and it froze within 25 minutes.

I wish macci could help with this, its issues like these we all want help for, being lost as to what it could be and they do have more Phenoms and motherboards than us to be able to test better, it being their daily job.
How many Volts I throw at this chip, it just doesnt want to do anything above 2.8Ghz. 2.9Ghz I think I got it to boot but almost insta freeze, I dont call that 'it wanted to do something'. And 2.8Ghz is like very fast freezing. And tbh, my I never saw Windows @ 3Ghz.
The not-possible MHz are different to the idling unstable.
Test whatever MHz you can benchmark in everything, boot repeatedly, install Windows/Linux with and then try and find something lower than that for stability.
If you have the freezing issues, they will appear with a very frustrating pattern similar to this although different MHz/Volts:

3200MHz 1.30v load/bench stable many hours [say 20hrs]
3200MHz 1.30v idling unstable
3200MHz 1.35v idling unstable
3200MHz 1.40v idling unstable
3200MHz 1.45v idling unstable
3200MHz 1.50v idling unstable
3200MHz 1.55v idling unstable
3200MHz 1.60v idling unstable
3100MHz 1.55v idling unstable
3000MHz 1.55v idling unstable
2900MHz 1.55v idling unstable
2800MHz 1.55v idling unstable
2800MHz 1.50v idling unstable
2800MHz 1.45v idling unstable
2800MHz 1.40v idling unstable
2800MHz 1.35v idling unstable
2800MHz 1.30v idling unstable
2800MHz 1.25v idling unstable
2700MHz 1.30v idling stable



You see how weird that is compared to all other CPUs we know about before?
IMO this is process variation more than anything - one tiny property becomes very enlarged as you increase MHz/Volts and if its slightly different to elsewhere in the chip, it can cause erratic instability, as we're seeing. I'm not sure what the SB600 clockgen has to do with this, it could be to some degree but not massively.

Your "batch" is not bad BTW, it's just your chip is most likely not as good as some others. Have you thrown up voltages to about 1.55v and benched Cinebench 10 multiCPU at say, 3000MHz or 3100MHz?
I have a similar batch click-> <-me

Suosaask you can just do it with BAR_EDIT, no need to swap BIOSes.
If it was the NB, then you would have the problem at stock too though.

OC - if its stable, use it daily without worry. Then you'll see whether it really is stable