EVERYBODY and their mothers already know that the 8800 GT is a better card then the 3870!!! The 3870 isnt meant to be better, it always was slower then the 8800GT.
And where exactly is your past experience coming from?
ATI 8500 was absolutely equal to, if not faster then the Geforce 3.
ATI 9700 / 9800 owned the entire Geforce 5 range, the geforce 5 being the WORST GPU the industry has ever seen.
X800 / X850 were on par with the 6800's, but they lacked DX9.0c
X1900 - X1950 were again faster then everything from the Geforce 7 range, particularly in DX9.0 intensive games.
ATI were screwed over when they were aquired by AMD, and the only single launch that was messed up and delayed since the dawn of the first Radeon chip was the 2900, however both the 2900 and 3800 are at least capable of keeping up with Nvidias current cards, and the 3800's scale far better when put into crossfire then Nvidia manages with SLI.
ATI, in their entire history of graphics cards, have IMO messed up one single product launch, and that was the 2900. And it wasnt their fault, it was the aquisition by AMD that somehow slowed them down.
Were you even around when the Geforce 5 was out, or aware of howit was? ATI have never created a graphics card yet that is anywhere near as bad as the geforce 5 was.
The 4800's should be a very strong comeback for ATI, and hopefully they wont mess up any launches again. It is a much bigger improvement over the 3800 then you think, you just seem to be grossly underestimating what the card will be capable of.
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