Quote Originally Posted by Dimitriman View Post
Don't you think you are underestimating it a bit perk? How is it that an architecture with virtually double the amount of features (shades, textures) etc, is supposed to become a mild update of its previous gen counterpart?
If past experience has taught us anything, those that overestimate ATI and underestimate Nvidia know nothing about this industry

Quote Originally Posted by Dimitriman View Post
There is 0 chance that 4870 will be on the level of 8800 GT. It will come out to compete with 9800 GTX and nothing less. I'm quite surprised you expect so little from this card when you used to expect so much from R600 before it came out
Check out the performance in games for the 3870 vs the 8800 GT 512MB.

It is on par for some games like UT3 and HL2, but for most it lags behind by an average of 30% or so. The 4870 will close that gap, beat the 9800 GTX in 3d 06 (by 1000 or so points), and overclock better than current gen cards. I would not expect more unless we get newer info. As always, I am hoping I am wrong and you are right, that the 4870 will be mindblowing, but go back to my first sentence and you will know why it is good to be cautious.

Perkam